0:00

it's a show that is headed to

0:02

the parade. I can't wait. I would

0:04

wait if I were you. We're going

0:07

to be below. I should even go.

0:10

You've got to go. I

0:12

think the people that made western night. Today,

0:15

Mahomes looking at a three-peat, the one surprising

0:18

element standing in his way. Meanwhile,

0:21

Micah Parsons unironically says that the

0:24

Cowboys need to quote Carter, who is

0:26

the first to cut out the extra

0:28

stuff while doing a podcast from Radio Row in

0:30

Las Vegas. Will

0:32

this work? And

0:35

finally, a way too early addition of Mahomes

0:37

Mountain for next year. It's going to be

0:39

a great one. It's

0:42

going to be a lot of you moving. He

0:44

was just in the Super Bowl. I can't wait.

0:46

I think Nick's coming around. I saw an early

0:49

copy of it. Alongside

0:51

Chris DeSard and Kevin Wilds, Nick,

0:53

any surprises on Mahomes Mountain? Yeah,

0:57

the people who didn't make it. Some

0:59

of my favorites weren't able to make it. It's

1:02

a busy mountain this time of year. We're

1:04

full of optimism. It's an off season

1:06

and the guys who were college players

1:09

are now pros, so they've got to get in there. There's

1:12

a lot going on. They're pros now? It's

1:14

a way too early 2024. We'll

1:17

be in 2024. Check

1:19

your calendar. We start with a three-peat.

1:23

We go back to back and no team has

1:25

ever three-peated. Nevertheless, Mahomes says it's in

1:27

his sights. Take a listen.

1:30

It's legendary. Just to

1:33

be able to...no one's ever done it. We knew

1:35

it's legendary to win back to back. I think

1:37

eight other teams have done it. We heard it

1:39

all week. We talked to the guys about it.

1:42

We felt like we had the best opportunity we had ever had

1:44

to go out there and do that. I

1:46

had to fell short the year before. All you

1:48

can do is come back next year with a fresh

1:50

mind set knowing it's going to be even harder. We'll be

1:52

back to the ninth team, Nick. Nobody

1:54

ever made it back to the Super Bowl.

1:56

Three teams missed the playoffs entirely. What's the

1:58

number one goal? one reason the

2:00

cheats won't three feet if they don't. If

2:03

they were to not do it, the

2:06

most obvious answer, the right answer is

2:08

Chris Jones leaves. And I'm

2:10

not arguing they can't do it without him.

2:13

I am arguing they wouldn't have three

2:15

Super Bowls without him. That's true. That

2:17

Chris Jones, you can go through each

2:19

and every playoff run. And it was

2:22

weird because up until last year, he

2:24

had never had a playoff sack, but

2:26

still had his fingerprints all over these

2:28

postseason runs. The first Super Bowl against

2:30

the Niners, Jimmy Garoppolo went in the

2:33

fourth quarter, had three passes tipped or

2:35

knocked down. Chris Jones, you know what

2:37

I mean? When the chief were trying

2:39

to come back last year, AFC title

2:42

game at Borough has the

2:44

ball tie game minute left. And it

2:46

looks like he's going to drive the

2:48

field. Chris Jones gets the sack. And

2:50

then this playoff run, obviously the push

2:52

of Deon Dawkins into Josh Allen when

2:54

he had someone open right before the

2:56

Tyler Bass mess. And I thought he

2:58

wreaked havoc in the game this weekend.

3:00

So Chris Jones leaves, that is a

3:03

big hole to fill. They could also lose Sneed,

3:05

who is great as McDuffie was in the playoffs

3:07

and everything. And he was the best corner in

3:09

the league this year, but they have

3:11

drafted so well at that spot. And they're so

3:13

deep at that spot that I think they could

3:16

overcome that more easily than Chris. It wouldn't be a

3:18

death blow either one of them, but that would be

3:20

the most obvious. What I don't think is going to

3:22

happen, brew is about someone

3:25

else overtaking them. I

3:27

don't, if they don't win, it's not going to

3:29

be because, Oh, the chargers under Harbaugh finally, you

3:31

know what I mean? Got it. Now they could

3:33

be better, but

3:36

this site, because of the path they

3:38

had this year, even if

3:40

the chargers were to win the division and

3:43

the chiefs would have to be on the

3:45

road the whole way, would anybody feel comfortable

3:48

picking against them on the road in round

3:50

one or two or three? And so I

3:52

don't think it's going to be that Baltimore is

3:54

going to be better. They've lost their offensive, their

3:57

defensive coordinator, and they had the best possible year

3:59

you could or defense, I

4:01

don't know if Cincinnati is going to have

4:03

T Higgins back and their offensive coordinator is

4:05

gone and you have the burrow injury risk.

4:07

So it would be about the

4:10

randomness of a football game or a

4:14

Hall of Famer, because Chris Jones now Hall of

4:16

Famer leaves and they were unable to replace him.

4:18

And I will say this, it'll

4:21

be interesting to see where Jones goes. If

4:23

I'm him, look, I'm trying to get paint. He's

4:26

got his two Super Bowls. Like you said,

4:28

he's got three Super Bowls. He's

4:31

a Hall of Famer. And so now it's like,

4:33

let me get the most money I can.

4:36

It's not like for his position, you count

4:38

the rings like you do for a quarterback.

4:40

That's why even Tyreke, I'm

4:42

sure he misses being in these moments, but at

4:45

the same time, he got this huge payday. So

4:47

I don't know where, what he feels as far

4:49

as should I have left or not. So I

4:51

think now if I'm Jones, I'd give a little

4:53

bit of a discount. If it's only a little

4:56

bit, sure, a couple million less, sure.

4:59

But if it's a big difference, he's probably

5:01

gone. And Sneed of course too. I

5:03

think- And Sneed's never been paid. Right. Sneed has

5:05

to go get the money. Chris is on at the end of

5:07

a four year, $80 million deal. Sneed

5:09

was a mid-round pick on the end of his

5:12

rookie deal. Sneed like this, I don't think Sneed

5:14

can take any discount. Right. Chris,

5:16

it will see what he wants to do,

5:18

but go ahead. No, complacency is obviously always

5:20

a question mark. You think the Chiefs are

5:22

gonna be complacent. No, Mahomes will not be

5:24

complacent. I love what he's saying. Like we

5:27

were talking about only eight teams have

5:29

repeated and like they're aware,

5:31

clearly he is aware and I think

5:34

Kelsey and the leadership is aware of

5:36

the history and they're not afraid of

5:38

it. In fact, Mahomes is chasing the

5:40

history, which I think is great, but

5:42

some of the other players possibly could

5:44

get a little bit complacent. That's always

5:46

a challenge when you've won a couple

5:48

championships. But I'll say this Nick, look, as

5:51

much as the receiver stepped up and I know

5:53

Hardman's a free agent. Yep. And

5:56

they might not have been BS back here. Yeah, MBS,

5:58

Ricky James, I think they're free. So they're

6:00

going to have some new receivers. I

6:02

still, I want them to go get like,

6:04

if they can, like a top flight receiver.

6:06

Cause I still think

6:09

that could be an issue as well.

6:11

Obviously my homes is overcoming now really

6:14

two years, pretty much. So it's not

6:16

something that it's not insurmountable, but I

6:18

still would like them to go. Rishi

6:21

is obviously good. I'm not

6:23

totally convinced he's a number one. I like

6:25

more of a deep threat for a number

6:27

one. So I think that's something they

6:29

need to look into. Before you go, Wilds, can I ask

6:31

you a question on that exact note? Because I do think

6:33

Rishi's a number one, but he's not a take the top

6:35

off the deep side of the guy. He's more yards up

6:37

for catch guy. If Brett Veach

6:40

had to make the choice this offseason, I

6:43

can sign T Higgins and

6:45

lose Chris Jones. No. Or I can bring

6:48

back Chris Jones and do what we, you

6:50

know, and not bring it for not just

6:52

not bringing T Higgins, but not bringing any

6:54

high priced receiver. Like, so to me, I

6:57

would definitively, I apologize. I just

6:59

like, no, my phone is everything. I

7:02

apologize. I would

7:05

without question, bring back Chris Jones. I

7:07

agree. So you're on stage. Because they've shown

7:09

two years in a row now. And it's

7:11

just such a hard position to develop if you're

7:13

not drafting blue trippers at the top of the

7:15

draft, like those standout D linemen. And

7:17

those guys will probably get better. Yeah.

7:20

Some of the other receivers. Two things. One, I think

7:22

you target a wide receiver in the draft. I mean, obviously, Pukka

7:24

is like a, you know, such

7:27

a superstar, but I think Mahomes can

7:30

take a level, let's say eight

7:32

guy and turn him in 10. I take a six guy,

7:34

turn him into an eight guy. Here's the other thing. And

7:36

it's not the sexiest reason, but it's actually the reason. Andy

7:40

Reid after the game talking about winning

7:42

again. Got to have a good off season and a good

7:44

training camp. Then the ball shaped kind of funny. It's got

7:47

to bounce for you in the right direction. It's a lot

7:49

of luck. It's not a great analysis,

7:51

but it's a lot of luck. Like when did

7:53

the Superbowl turn? That you're going

7:55

to say the punt. And It

7:57

wasn't even a bad play. It's just a random play.

8:00

The most gets the ball. mom's touchdown and

8:02

now was like flip the switch warm. I

8:04

know we're going to talk about Brady and

8:06

a second. There's so many instances of just.

8:08

Lady. Luck fallen in your weight favor and

8:11

then sometimes the you know football gods it's

8:13

gotta go the other way. And I also

8:15

agree. You know the harder you work the

8:17

lucky to get I'd buy all that. They'll

8:19

always be in position for. One of these

8:21

lucky breaks is gonna have to balance the

8:23

wrong way. It's not going to beautiful. You

8:26

know their luck is necessary but my home's

8:28

is also that good. Like he's levels above

8:30

everybody else. So sit back and I do

8:32

a quick the industry thing here. you have

8:34

the teams who had a chance and why

8:36

they didn't can I think it's instructed me.

8:39

Aren't so the Packers Vince Lombardi retired then

8:41

by the way they had run a three

8:43

way. they did but it is back to

8:45

back super bright and in that say a

8:47

be superior be exactly. But so Miami went

8:49

to three straight but they lost on the

8:51

front end so they have one back to

8:53

back. What happened to him the next year?

8:56

The famous see of hands play twenty eight,

8:58

twenty six and of the game. So they

9:00

work. That's kind of what your own. They

9:02

were good enough. Love ran a loss. an

9:04

epic game everyone remembers Pittsburgh. Had two shots

9:06

and at right is it the steel curtain.

9:08

The. First time they lost to or Raiders

9:10

team that was neck and neck with the

9:12

my whole your I was a seven year

9:14

run in Nfl history where the Steelers in

9:16

the Raiders one six of the A title.

9:18

So it's like a weird see basically almost

9:20

as good as us. It was finally their

9:23

turn and in nineteen eighty and this is

9:25

the one none of us mentioned. use hold

9:27

your breath against Nineteen Eighty that Sealers things

9:29

were have ravaged by injuries and so it

9:31

just wasn't the same. Okay to go to

9:33

modern more modern day The Niners, Eighty Eight

9:35

eighty nine and they had a chance. And

9:37

ninety. The. Fumble with two

9:39

minutes left against the Giants in the

9:41

conference championship game Lose on a field

9:43

goal Be and fifteen thirteen the Cowboys.

9:46

They. It was similar to what are some

9:48

of the Steelers Raiders. The Niners were right

9:50

there and bill item every year and a

9:52

plan. The Niners finally got their turn store

9:54

and then the Broncos elway retired your forgot

9:56

that and the Patriots to in all five

9:58

is actually weren't that. The only one ten

10:00

games they got blown outta there kind of. The

10:03

outliers agree to that was a to i have

10:05

gonna we're talking Brady but it turned the ball

10:07

over I think five times about that but also

10:09

that hatred seem was not a great deal. I

10:11

retain a way I just a breeder and so

10:13

the point that I'm making is the one that

10:15

if you're right now yelling at your screen at

10:17

the team as a fan of a team that

10:19

has not been mentioned. It's Bills

10:22

fan saying we are the Raiders of

10:24

the seventies We are the niners of

10:26

the nineties. We are the team that

10:28

you keep beating in the play offs

10:30

that one day we'll get our own

10:32

the of know what I mean I

10:34

I am more of the belief that

10:36

the tubes are closer to the dolphins

10:38

of the seventies that could have won

10:40

three straight on the front end or

10:42

back in and you just hope the

10:44

sea of and play doesn't go against

10:46

you like so those are the teams

10:48

that have come closest and usually wilds

10:50

there were barring a retirement. Of a

10:52

coach or a quarterback they're right there.

10:54

It's not like there's a lot of

10:56

seems like always ally of entire as

10:58

the best for you are able. Tom

11:01

Brady went back to back for some

11:03

rules two and three know when nine

11:05

years before winning Super Bowl for so

11:07

nick the you think there's also with

11:09

you bro do you think there's a

11:11

chance of the to spawned was similar

11:13

Super Bowl drought? honestly I don't I

11:15

I I cannot fathom password my home's

11:18

going same years and when it when

11:20

Obama winning a Super Bowl. Or Brady.

11:22

Then. I. Know but as this

11:24

stage of their careers. My.

11:26

Home's is better individually them Brady was

11:28

at this stage smokeless right? years are

11:31

mandatory more later ill but at this

11:33

stage where hoses much better and saw

11:35

a in my home is like Lebron.

11:38

Magna. Burn We're still, he's thirty

11:40

nine and we're still like talking

11:42

about nothing. He still feel it's

11:44

i gotta get more rings because

11:46

he's say see where do you

11:48

think is Fast runner not up

11:50

to write say see Jordan six.

11:52

Art Jordan at Thirty Eight Thirty nine

11:55

Know I was even think about. always

11:57

gotta get more raised because he had passed the

11:59

guys he was looking at, Magic and Bird. Steph

12:02

even, is anybody really focused on

12:04

like, Steph's gotta get a new ring? Yeah, we

12:06

might like to see. Not even the Warriors. Right,

12:08

we might like to see him compete with a

12:10

team like that, but he doesn't, he's not have

12:13

that guy in front of him that he's chasing.

12:15

And so Mahomes is very

12:17

aware, and he's open

12:20

about, he's chasing Brady. So I

12:22

think that will keep this team

12:24

on edge, and him on

12:26

edge, and I just think he's

12:28

too good also and

12:31

that's on fast, it will be one of

12:33

the biggest shocks in modern

12:35

sports history. If

12:37

they don't win another Super Bowl 10 years. Do you

12:39

think Kelsey's gonna play for another 10 years? No, but

12:42

I think we- You've never seen him without Kelsey. Well

12:44

we- Not saying it's impossible, but

12:46

the secrets of the Patriots' dynasty is that

12:48

rosters burn to the ball. But you're

12:51

right, Kelsey and Mahomes and Reed are the

12:53

common denominators, and I don't think Reed's gonna

12:55

coach for 10 more years, but he's, I've

12:57

liked the coach for a few more years,

13:00

but we have seen the Chiefs with totally

13:02

different types of teams win Super Bowls.

13:04

You know, high flying, got out score everyone

13:06

in 19, a team

13:08

that was high flying despite not having the

13:11

weapons last year, and this

13:13

year where a team that scuttled and was

13:15

defensive based, and Mahomes was excellent throughout. So

13:17

I'm gonna say there's two reasons

13:19

I do not think this is likely.

13:23

One is that, I don't wanna say

13:25

dirty secret, but the underrated part of that drought

13:28

is, Tom in that

13:30

stretch in the playoffs had a

13:32

lot of really bad moments. Tom

13:34

Brady in that stretch had six

13:36

playoff games, six With

13:39

more interceptions than touchdowns. Tom, Mahomes has

13:41

had one in his career up to

13:43

this point. Tom, they, and if you

13:45

go through it, and we can show

13:47

you Tom's numbers, I think, in the

13:49

stretch, like it's not like they're brutal,

13:51

but it's not, it didn't feel like

13:53

in that near decade, like oh, we

13:55

have such an edge because we have

13:57

the best quarterback in the world. That

13:59

was when- We're gonna be viewed

14:01

at events aggravate right on sale. While

14:03

he was viewed as the winner Wilde

14:05

would see and people forget what's that

14:07

old looks like. And now in Tom's

14:10

defense, She. I think

14:12

had two seasons last to injury because

14:14

oh eight you loss of year again

14:16

oh nine he was not as same

14:18

guy is it? It took him longer

14:20

to come back from the A Cel.

14:22

His. And then and then this is.

14:25

What you have to avoid in my if

14:27

you're the chiefs the twenties and sees. The.

14:29

Patriots were fourteen and to. The.

14:32

Dominant team. And. They

14:34

lost some Mark Sanchez in the jets about

14:36

ah and then the next year they were

14:38

even better and are in the Superbowl and

14:40

you lose the Eli and but then add

14:42

lock. That's what it looked at as much

14:44

as day and is I reject? Know that

14:46

man, that radicals but I'm same as the

14:49

love will not. Nope, I agree. but here's

14:51

where I disagree. I.

14:53

Knew. When you aren't that good.

14:56

And you are playing a team you

14:58

are reasonably a massive favorite over. Use

15:00

it like you you want to not

15:02

let luck come into play. and so

15:05

that. So that's the part. That's the

15:07

part of the Iraq where it's a

15:09

little confusing and then he got real

15:11

scary for patriot fans because. Peyton.

15:13

Manning goes to Denver and then

15:15

instantly awesomely beat him in the

15:17

playoffs. I just I don't see

15:20

that type of drought because More

15:22

Homes is so great already. Brady's

15:24

best playoff performances all came later

15:26

mother in the latter half of

15:28

his core. In some there's nine,

15:30

right, one, two, three, four procedure.

15:33

Was. The divisional rival just to to the Ravens.

15:35

Could you see Lamar peeling off to. To.

15:38

mom's in the playoffs what a hundred and

15:40

nine years on what you say you one

15:42

alive at he's going to ask what you've

15:44

got to get very many got issue two

15:46

trips to the superbowl that were you i

15:48

played for easy one turnovers one injury like

15:50

that's it then i'll live on you have

15:52

except the drought so here's but i guess

15:54

here's where i would push back on that

15:56

if you look at those seasons in two

15:58

thousand and five they weren't that good and they

16:00

got blown out in the playoffs. In 06, they just

16:02

blew the AFC title game. That was the 21 to

16:04

3 game to paint and they came all the way

16:07

back. They got blown out. And we're still playing, paint

16:09

and manning. No, no, no, no, of

16:11

course. But the point that I'm trying

16:13

to make is, three of these playoff

16:16

losses, they got blown out. But

16:18

this is another thing that we haven't seen

16:20

and we've gotten numb to. Mahomes now, playoffs

16:23

in regular seasons, through six

16:25

years of his career, has three Super Bowl titles

16:28

and four losses by more than one score. So

16:31

they're not, because

16:33

they are not blowoutable, they

16:35

are able to have the luck matter.

16:38

You know, if they were down by

16:40

17 when the Mufft punt

16:42

happened in the Super Bowl, it doesn't matter

16:44

because they had held close. That's why it

16:46

was able to matter. All right, let's take

16:49

a look at Mahomes' resume. Three Super Bowl

16:51

wins, six years, two-time MVP, three-time Super Bowl

16:53

MVP, almost 300 yards passing, best ever, and

16:55

15 playoff wins. Brady

16:57

has similar numbers in a few categories, but other

17:00

than that, you're gonna go cross sports here.

17:02

Sure, yeah. Best start to a career ever.

17:05

So, I just, so, Brew, I think I

17:07

narrowed it down and I wanna know where

17:09

you fall on it. So we can start

17:11

with football and it's clearly Mahomes. And what

17:13

I did is championships, championship appearances, championship

17:17

MVPs, league MVPs, and

17:20

Times Miss the playoffs. And I think

17:22

we can show Mahomes against Brady and

17:25

Montana, the other greats, and Mahomes clears

17:27

the field. So Mahomes

17:29

would move on from there. Wilds, we

17:31

got a lot going on today. Just follow it up,

17:33

okay? Because they're all gonna look like

17:35

this. Then I

17:38

kind of did old legends that

17:40

you're curious about where they're at and

17:42

we're not gonna do, there we go.

17:44

So the only one who's really, Babe

17:46

Ruth, I was surprised, but

17:49

then I'm like, oh wait, they didn't even. It's

17:51

hitching. Exactly right, but that matters, right? So that's

17:53

the Red Sox. I

17:55

did seven, because I'm including for Brady and Mahomes

17:57

to be fair, they're rookie seasons. Gretzky

18:01

really looks like, oh my god. So

18:03

then, and Kareem is missing the playoffs,

18:05

even though he was so great, so

18:07

that final column is missing the playoffs.

18:09

Gretzky won seven MVPs, his first seven.

18:11

Yeah, Gretzky was pretty unbelievable. He's the

18:13

only athlete after that. When you go

18:15

to his Wikipedia, you have to go

18:17

to another Wikipedia just for his record.

18:19

Really, so. And then, so then I went

18:21

to basketball only, Brew, and you

18:23

have, so the people that

18:25

are gonna stand out are Bird and Russell. And

18:28

so this is what I came

18:30

up with for the greatest starts

18:32

to a career ever, if we can show the

18:35

last one. And it's not

18:37

quite Patrick. If we're being honest, as much

18:39

as I would love it to be, Russell

18:42

and Gretzky are gonna be pretty

18:44

damn hard to clear ever

18:46

for anybody. Russell, the only reason that

18:48

the championship MVPs is the award didn't

18:51

exist. He won four league

18:53

MVPs and won the title every year. Gretzky

18:55

won a third of the titles and was

18:57

league MVP every single year. But I think

18:59

that's the list, Brew. I think if there's

19:01

a Mount Rushmore of best starts to a career

19:03

ever, he's clearly number one in football, and those

19:06

are the guys he's competing with. No, that's fair.

19:09

I think it's obviously Gretzky. If you, with

19:11

that list, I mean, seven MVPs is pretty

19:13

good. Right, and the championships.

19:16

Russell, look, obviously the six

19:19

championships in his first

19:21

seven years and five in his

19:23

first six. But Russell,

19:26

individually, his statistics weren't

19:29

what Mahomes was. Now, rebounder, he led the league

19:31

several times. But he still won league MVP four

19:33

times. He won, right, right. So that

19:36

might be something. But look, generally,

19:38

you have to go to individual

19:40

sports. Like, to put somebody with

19:42

Mahomes, you gotta go to like-

19:44

Tiger. Tyson with boxing, Tiger, or

19:46

Ali with boxing, Tiger and golf.

19:48

Like, it's clearly football.

19:51

That's not even close. And

19:53

Ironically, we talk about the Goats, LeBron, and

19:55

Jordan. They're not close. They're not close. They're

19:57

not close. I Mean, because they didn't win

19:59

championships. I know but it just takes

20:01

it's a server different trajectory but it was

20:03

yeah I mean a guy go in once

20:05

they got go and of course but but

20:07

L a were great individually with the T

20:09

they didn't have the the surfaces birds do

20:12

you do you think wilds as a Brady

20:14

guy but also mom's guy. That. Brady

20:16

at the very least, More Homes has

20:18

now surpassed Brady's early bird. Yes, yeah,

20:20

bugs. I don't think. Early Brady

20:22

was still. And

20:25

almost like he needs a different name. He was

20:27

still pick one Ninety Nine Bernier Tap or I

20:29

don't think he. Hits. He

20:31

was razor has a lot of other

20:34

diseases I've got my are get roman

20:36

already been any sort of just emerged

20:38

into right now I'd everybody realize how

20:40

great he was because he hadn't had

20:42

great receivers to that point lead given

20:44

was my hometown years on the to

20:47

strayed from Marvin Harrison know have who

20:49

are afraid of the get ah the

20:51

room now the party breeze covered swabbing

20:53

everything on as a feeling blue states

20:55

noted on as as on fox was

20:57

five years and done a lot of

21:00

people. Used

21:20

to be. I'd like to

21:22

recognize for me who were reintegrated

21:24

into professional football. and Nineteen Forty

21:26

Six when he was in a

21:29

former you silly running back who

21:31

shares the same backfield with Jackie

21:33

Robinson. And would you stroll in

21:35

one of the most celebrated backfields

21:38

in college football? his Washington signed

21:40

a contract with the Los Angeles

21:42

Rams when African American players were

21:44

banned from league play just months

21:46

after he joined the Rams the

21:49

team signed would he strove. Him

21:52

as saying year a little known

21:54

coach name Paul Brown of the

21:56

struggling Cleveland Browns sign Running Back

21:58

Marry a motley a Difference. A

22:00

deal with here by integrating

22:02

a sort of lead all

22:04

the a of fill these

22:06

for science market sniffing is

22:08

moment in black history that

22:10

would save the sport forever.

22:16

Local doctors are you know, maybe caution

22:19

against would have opted to play defense

22:21

person overtime Ivanov who don't quite know

22:23

from Emporia with the homeowner I'm similar.

22:25

Ah, go to enter. He got a

22:28

fresh start, albeit after fourteen season with

22:30

the Eagle. Shanahan already have seven years

22:32

with the Forty Niners. a lot to

22:35

Superbowl. This changes in

22:37

of same problem practice of law

22:39

is suitable for what why will

22:41

have and things that improves hand

22:43

or city's best and group sabha

22:46

reboot. Of

22:49

up over your lifestyle. Will

22:51

start with your will Shanahan

22:54

eventually. Need. A restart. I

22:57

I don't think. The

22:59

Niners sure to believe anything other than

23:01

we want calcium as or coat as

23:03

long as when partners have him. That

23:05

for Kyle, here's the thing and I

23:08

promise I am not taking the shot

23:10

at Brock. But. Who knows

23:12

how hard it is if you

23:14

don't have that guy quarterback and

23:16

that's why and now it in

23:18

a being the wrong decisions that

23:20

why they traded three first round

23:23

picks for Free Lance speakers. he

23:25

wanted finally to be in a

23:27

playoff game and say. You

23:29

know what? Fair fight? If not actually

23:31

I've got the better to As you

23:34

would put it, go to Quarterback and

23:36

the Niners now at this point kind

23:38

of a victim of their own success

23:40

unless brought thirty takes what I would

23:43

consider be a massive leap or to

23:45

they're never going to have that guy

23:47

unless they all. then you know, getting

23:50

super lucky in the draft because organ

23:52

draft fi you know today the and

23:54

so I I I don't think the

23:57

Niners should wanna move off. Kyle Shanahan.

23:59

but i Do you think if Kyle Shannon is like, man,

24:02

you know, the next time a Justin Herbert type job

24:04

comes open, I would understand if Kyle Shannon is like,

24:06

man, that would be fun to be

24:08

able to coach that type of guy. Coach is

24:10

cool. That, that, that. Look, I

24:13

think first Kyle does have to look in the

24:15

mirror. Like every coach has

24:17

their flaws, including Andy Reid, Belichick, all

24:19

that. And he's got to

24:21

look at the things he has not done.

24:23

And maybe I'm, I would imagine he's doing

24:26

this, but look at his, the clock management

24:28

and why haven't I done some of these

24:30

things in these big games? Like he's really

24:32

got to sit down. And if it means

24:35

bringing somebody alongside you that helps you with

24:37

those things, you got to do that. So

24:39

that's number one. I do think,

24:41

look, I think next year is critical for them

24:44

because, and I think to your point, how

24:47

long he stays, cause he might want to go somewhere

24:49

else. Some of it may depend

24:51

on Brock Purdy. Does he show next year

24:54

that he's really that guy? Not just he

24:56

has another good season like this, but does

24:58

he show you that, Oh, he can carry

25:00

you. You can't just win with him. He

25:02

can carry. What's up? He's

25:04

just an overtime. I guess what you

25:07

guys call him the quarterback. He's

25:09

just an overtime. Brock Purdy took

25:12

Patrick Moms to overtime is great

25:14

defense to overtime. Maybe

25:16

he's not the guy. I think you just want

25:18

to see more. Like even if I want to

25:20

see it another year, he's gone to the Subaru

25:23

or NFC championship, but four out of the last

25:25

five years. And he lost

25:27

in overtime to Patrick Mahomes

25:29

and the chiefs with his

25:31

third defensive coordinator in three years.

25:34

And they built continuity in the organization.

25:36

They took a quarterback that was the

25:38

last pick of the draft and he's

25:40

been incredibly successful. I think Brock Purdy's

25:42

made a lot of strides over the

25:45

course of that time. And

25:47

we say reboot, like Andy Reed, like to

25:49

suddenly decided, Hey, I don't like Philadelphia anymore.

25:52

He got fired. After he went,

25:54

what, four and 12 and

25:56

his reboot happened to come with Patrick Mahomes.

26:00

Not immediately, but that's really what it is.

26:02

But there's a lot of other coaches that

26:04

are rebooting, like Sean Payton's rebooting in Denver

26:06

and it's not going as smoothly because he's

26:08

got Russell Wilson. So as

26:11

you look at the grasping greener somewhere

26:13

else, it may not be

26:15

he's got a relationship with ownership, he's got

26:17

a relationship with the GM that got continuity.

26:19

I mean, there's a lot of things that

26:22

have been really great about what he's done.

26:24

Wouldn't you say? I agree with that. As

26:26

great as we see Andy Reid is, he

26:29

probably doesn't have a Super Bowl without my home. Well,

26:31

no, but so that's the, but I'm saying like, that's

26:33

the reboots. You

26:36

got the best quarterback out there. So

26:39

if I can respond to both the points you

26:41

guys made real quick. First of all, wild,

26:43

the Niners took the Chiefs to overtime, right? And

26:46

so the, and I'm not

26:48

attacking Purdy, but the reason I think

26:51

Brew is saying next year is so

26:53

critical is after next year. And the

26:55

side, even in order to keep Brock

26:57

Purdy, you have to lose so many

26:59

of those great players that helped get

27:01

you there. But the Andy comp is

27:04

a good one because while early in

27:06

Andy's career, he lost playoff games to

27:08

Brad Johnson and Jake Deloam and conference

27:10

games, we were like, man, you had

27:12

McNabb and his prime. After

27:15

that, Andy's playoff games in

27:17

Philly, he lost too. Tom

27:19

Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Tony

27:21

Romo in his best year and Aaron Rodgers. And

27:24

so every time, even though Andy had McNabb

27:26

and then Mike Vick, he was at the

27:29

QB disadvantage except for maybe one of those

27:31

years, Vick versus Romo, or that one I've

27:33

been McNabb versus Romo, I don't quite remember.

27:36

And so I do think there's an element

27:38

of, and this is why I pushed back

27:40

on the pumpkin alert stuff, even though I

27:42

thought Kyle has some game management issues where

27:44

you have to overcome so much in

27:47

every playoff game and in

27:49

Kyle's career with the Niners,

27:51

you can argue he's been at the disadvantage

27:54

at the quarterback spot from a talent perspective

27:56

in every playoff game except for the one

27:58

against Gino in Brock. first.

28:00

Well, it's like me wearing shorts every day in

28:02

the winter. Be like, man, I sure

28:04

am cold like, yeah, man, it's your decision

28:06

to wear shorts during the winter. But you can't

28:09

just picked up the pie chart and decide to

28:11

spend 1% of it on Brock 30 and

28:13

and have a book. They did try to

28:15

get Trey Lance and they blew it. Okay, that's

28:17

okay. So am I supposed to

28:20

know that? No, but but wild. Let's

28:22

say they decided, you know what, let's

28:24

say this off season, they decided, you

28:26

know what, forget this philosophy, we are

28:29

going to get rid of all these

28:31

expensive stars because we want to pick a

28:33

quarterback off the franchise quarterback tree. Who

28:35

are they getting? The answer is Kirk Cousins.

28:38

If they're lucky, like it's not like you, you,

28:40

you're presenting it as if they've had these options

28:42

to get great quarterbacks. They did right when he

28:44

got there and they didn't scout my homes. They

28:46

decided we're going to get Kirk the next year.

28:48

And that was a mistake. But after that, it's

28:51

not like they've had a ton of options where

28:53

we are choosing not to have a great quarterback

28:55

because those great quarterbacks don't come available. He tried

28:57

to get Tom Brady repeatedly. It didn't work. Right.

28:59

Try harder. Okay. I just don't like being like,

29:05

oh, poor Kyle. He only had

29:07

a quarterback. You have a young

29:09

quarterback. I got 8 80. Let you

29:13

in on the process. We have

29:15

a Google Doc to put stories into. But

29:17

if you really want a story in the show, you text

29:19

the producers, see if you

29:21

at home can guess who texted this

29:23

report from Albert Breer. They were blown

29:25

away by how he ripped apart the

29:28

zone. One of

29:33

the coaches told me he sees

29:35

Drew Brees qualities in pretty brew

29:37

your reaction. Well, that might've been

29:39

your best read. Thanks. That was great.

29:41

Well, I'm glad all these people

29:44

watch the show and

29:47

a lot of smart football people

29:49

are now making the comparison of

29:51

Brock. Party to Drew Brees, myself,

29:55

a super bowl winning coach, whoever that

29:57

coach is, he's on a Superbowl staff.

29:59

Why wouldn't Mean this is a compliment

30:07

Look at you breathe himself what is making the company

30:09

about the seat shown to be that guy I guess

30:11

the way the teammates talk about it Yeah He makes

30:14

love of his timing and rhythm and the bass that

30:16

he plays with it reminds me a

30:18

lot of the way that I play Yeah, I mean,

30:20

yeah to me when people say always a system for

30:22

that But guess what? He just went outside the system

30:24

made incredible plays It totally transformed the

30:27

complexion that game. You mean it says this guy

30:29

was ready to do whatever Outside

30:31

the realm of what you would have thought. Yes, you would have done

30:33

I Was

30:37

roundly mocked by all of you. Yeah,

30:39

I'm gonna Coach

30:48

When he plays I don't know which coach on the staff

30:50

said it may be the strength and conditioning coach Show

30:57

you what the game plan was for that Oh,

30:59

yeah, see if we can see what what are

31:01

oh, we just wanted Brock to throw

31:04

the ball So I don't remember going

31:06

to any came against drew Brees and

31:08

going hey We just want to brew

31:10

Brees to throw the ball That's all

31:12

we want to do and then let's

31:14

take a look at Drew. Let's take

31:16

a look at Drew Purdy stats Okay,

31:18

so he was six seven and fifty

31:20

two point nine That doesn't

31:23

seem very brew Brees s

31:25

typically drew got a little

31:27

bit better as the game went on and he

31:29

as he figured out how things are gonna unfold

31:31

That's not really drew Brees s and and look

31:33

host Super Bowl as a winner. You tend to

31:35

be very Generous

31:38

with your compliments of the other team and

31:40

I think that that was a very nice

31:43

Thing for them. I can I you know,

31:45

I'm right. Can I all right. Can I make You

31:48

an up there in the game Like

31:51

we gotta change the zone Drew Brees

31:53

were honest Niners team it would have

31:55

been the greatest team ever currently or

31:57

vintage you maybe maybe currently Certainly,

32:00

listen, I just would like a little respect

32:02

on Drew Brees' name. I

32:08

know Saints fans don't like me because I'm the

32:10

only person that understands their salary cap in the

32:12

national, from their local

32:14

media. But this is one of

32:16

the 15 greatest quarterbacks ever who

32:18

from 2008 to 2016 averaged 5,000 yards

32:24

a year. AVERAGED it. It's like, oh,

32:26

he had no, his number one receiver most

32:28

years was Marcus Colston. Who was it? No,

32:31

Jimmy. Yeah, he was good. He would

32:33

be wide receiver three on the Niners is what

32:35

he would be. And so again, like I am

32:38

not trying to, I have been very nice to

32:40

Brock Purdy the last couple days because I thought

32:42

he played fine in the Super Bowl. And I

32:44

thought, you know, he kind of played into the

32:46

Chiefs hands as far as they were trying

32:49

to take away the run to make him

32:51

throw because they were more scared of Christian

32:53

than they were of Brock. And Brock, to his

32:55

credit, didn't make any brutal mistakes. He had, if

32:58

you're doing the wows and yikes, he only got

33:00

one yikes and he got away with it. And

33:03

so, and he had a couple wows, so I give him credit. But

33:06

the Drew Brees thing, you're right, bro. I

33:08

made fun of you and I will for

33:10

years. A cop is not saying he's going

33:12

to be Drew Brees. He's closer in Super

33:15

Bowl than Drew Brees from Mahomes' to Brady.

33:17

Okay. Is that true or not? This

33:22

year, Patrick Mahomes wasn't an MVP finalist,

33:24

received a smattering of votes that placed

33:27

him seventh. Well, next year, he started

33:29

off as the favorite followed by Josh

33:31

Allen Burrow, CJ Stroud, and then the

33:33

reigning MVP, Lamar. In fifth place

33:35

there, bro. Curse of research, trikes

33:37

again. What? I

33:40

was just saying, you know, Adam going to the

33:42

Super Bowl all of a sudden, he's fifth. The

33:44

guy's literally had the MVP two days ago. He

33:46

did with the MVP. Who's the best bet to

33:48

take down Mahomes? Well, first of all, I think

33:50

Purdie's going to be a factor. Oh, I'm

33:52

Purdie is going to be a factor

33:54

next year. But if of that list,

33:57

I'm gonna say Joe Burrow. Google

34:00

come back like us. I'm assuming he's

34:02

gonna be healthy because that's a problem

34:04

for him, but. He's going

34:06

to be so heights so when it's

34:08

a and he's gonna have the narrative

34:10

you know almost like a comeback player.

34:12

Yummy! You're a will be up for

34:14

that too. but I think burrow be

34:17

the guy who knows the i agree

34:19

with you Chris I think it's burrow

34:21

as well. and and as we went

34:23

through the list with Brady of quarterback

34:25

so around during his feet or nissl

34:27

runs and how good they were and

34:29

and how challenging they were vs homes

34:31

and and his run having the boroughs

34:33

that get the chance to emerge as

34:35

bad. That competitor for for

34:38

Patrick And and lets us Mcadam.

34:40

Had has or is three and one

34:42

against favour from their fate each other

34:44

to get a better completion percentage in

34:47

Frederick more pass yds better passer after

34:49

the an idea of and better passer

34:51

as oh yeah I'm is as it

34:53

set Marzo know if you look through

34:55

them head to head. It is

34:57

This could emerge as as hope you win

35:00

league Mvp. Hopefully it'll probably that's what else

35:02

is it only or what I mean It

35:04

was one of those one of those guys

35:06

that can be Patrick in the playoffs for

35:08

everybody else seems a struggle with it's so

35:10

as when him and Brady so I would

35:12

say that he has the best censored out.

35:14

Of the final I don't know why

35:16

is here's the thing. Coach was sponsored

35:19

mom's but he just likes the needle

35:21

me so much as it is are

35:23

not quite over time where we have

35:25

been a little I I mean I

35:27

took it further than you guys because

35:29

I was not only looking sought after,

35:31

suffering for no I'm saying I was

35:33

looking at just the guys in the

35:36

top. I've i expanded it because what

35:38

did wilde you pointed this out early

35:40

But what did we see from the

35:42

Mvp historically but also all five finalists

35:44

this year. One of them and com and

35:46

while they were wondered they were the one or

35:48

two. See exactly right now everybody Go Go Power

35:50

finished okay go as if you want to lump

35:52

Lamar went from first to sit all the sun

35:55

and in of have a favorite and I guess

35:57

that is also not even in the mix any

35:59

for a second they've got to foreigners are just

36:01

in the civil than just. I was actually the

36:03

to seat after a bumpy road since I read

36:05

in a mom's without so theoretically historically out if

36:07

you want to be in the mix you have

36:10

to be a one or two see that's why

36:12

and it's over saying take down the homes I

36:14

the team's record was bounce back. Next are they

36:16

take one of those one or two seats. I'm

36:18

gonna go to the Nfc. And

36:20

I'm gonna go with two quarterbacks. the

36:22

we're right outside of this list that

36:24

I think teams could be very good

36:26

next year. and if you're the quarterback

36:29

for an excellent team every chance and

36:31

that is Jordan Love and Matt Stafford

36:33

sizing Safford if he's healthy all year

36:35

with own Cooper Cop If you can

36:37

be healthy for start to finish with

36:39

the emergence of book and of course

36:41

great the Oil. Excellent young running back

36:43

they drafted well and icing Mcveigh his

36:45

brilliance, hiding Stafford fully healthy could have

36:48

a monster season. I think people there.

36:50

Is sometimes I will say sentimentality.

36:52

Been a little eight. Matt

36:54

Stafford never even come close to an Mvp

36:56

if he is a monster year and I

36:58

just for Jordan. That. Is massive projection.

37:01

I understand, but I don't think there is

37:03

a great defense in that division. I think

37:05

the fact the way they ended the season

37:07

where he had like twenty three touchdowns two

37:09

picks over the final couple months I know

37:12

the fuck. Second, have a playoff game wasn't

37:14

great. I did see him having a monster

37:16

your butt of i'm looking for a non

37:18

norms that I wouldn't want someone now and

37:20

or burrow that's gotta go through more homes

37:23

during the regular season. as you were pointing

37:25

out those things, Agriculture, anybody? Doc anybody? ah

37:27

that ah new face a little bit when

37:29

the Mars. To the fly often of images

37:31

are a little you have to be. You

37:34

usually get your first and. You

37:37

have to be our. Some.

37:40

Of his hands, short minutes and early

37:43

edition of Moses our best one of

37:45

the or is it really about Sars

37:47

one of the was of us. as

37:50

earlier this way to or wage work

37:53

season or time nerve wracking headline sponsored

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by ramprakash they're built to serve all

37:57

year and like a farce in part

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by bonus bull and gosh darn he did it. Hosted

38:03

a podcast from Las Vegas where

38:05

he laid out a plan for how the Cowboys

38:07

can improve on a season that saw them embarrassed

38:09

in the wild card round tickles. We

38:13

need to paint a better picture of who we

38:15

want to be, fix our mistakes, way more accountability.

38:17

People need to have way more accountability. I

38:20

just think we let things slide too often because

38:22

we know we're good. Absolutely. So that's all about

38:25

me bro. I want to change the culture. I

38:27

want to change the identity over the Cowboys are

38:29

cut the charades out, cut the extra stuff out.

38:32

I've been going to lock in for

38:34

22 or whatever. 22 weeks bro. That's

38:37

great. Your reaction. Does that

38:39

mean he's dropping the podcast? I don't believe that.

38:41

Wouldn't that be extra stuff? Look,

38:44

I like what he said, but here's the

38:46

problem. Micah can't change

38:48

the culture because Micah doesn't set the

38:50

culture. Jerry Jones created this culture and

38:52

I think that culture has been there

38:54

since Jimmy Johnson left and even including

38:56

when Barry Switzer was there and they

38:59

got a little more lax and Jerry

39:01

took up more obviously ownership and leadership

39:03

and it's been that culture ever since.

39:06

And so the culture to me is

39:08

we are a soap opera in

39:10

a football setting and our main

39:12

thing is entertainment unspoken,

39:15

but that's our main thing. They

39:17

need to switch from that to

39:19

being a football franchise where football

39:21

is first football is the only

39:23

thing, but only Jerry Jones

39:25

can do that. Micah can't do it. Well

39:28

Bill Parcells coached there and I can promise

39:30

you that that wasn't the coach culture when

39:32

Bill was there. So there was that

39:34

time period and look, I don't

39:36

get this. I don't know if Micah says

39:38

something and then the public reacts to it

39:40

and then he's like, oh, I'm going to

39:42

say exactly the opposite thing because just a

39:44

few weeks ago he said he was fine

39:46

with his playoff appearance. He was he was

39:48

content with his prep, all that stuff. He

39:50

was good. So everybody else's fault.

39:53

His one tackle in the playoff game or

39:55

in the game they lost was outstanding. So

39:57

you want To be accountable, be accountable for

39:59

yourself. There was once you start.

40:01

And let's start there and you take

40:03

care what. You're supposed to take care

40:05

of your leader by virtue of your

40:07

abilities. So act like a leader, be

40:10

a consistent person out in front and

40:12

set an example. And don't talk about

40:14

it. And don't talk about all things

40:16

you want to change. The do something

40:18

about oh shit out of success over

40:20

and over and over again. He gets

40:22

on and talks about what needs to

40:24

get done either. This is Seoul. Okay.

40:26

Can. I defend michael Parser know and it

40:28

was listed. In

40:31

the Friday night. agree with makes maybe.

40:34

I phone leaves. His

40:36

heart is in the right place

40:38

as Snyder's I honestly, I believe

40:40

that he. Truly. Wants.

40:43

Not. In not just the personal, Accolades In

40:45

these things I think he wants to

40:47

be great, I think he wants the

40:50

team to be great and I think

40:52

he is like a lot of very

40:54

young people kind of figuring out the

40:56

exact path towards that land. A problem

40:58

and now I'm going to sound like

41:00

an old man and and me an

41:03

old man. So problem is he is

41:05

figuring it out in real time behind

41:07

a microphone and we're all on the

41:09

journey with him. And so this is

41:11

to your point burrow. About the guys

41:13

who typically have these stardom. Mean older

41:16

veterans. Are you know that you've been

41:18

through more? Order your point that he

41:20

name's may be a better producer or

41:22

the whole host or somebody. Those things

41:25

instead it is stream of consciousness. I

41:27

don't think any of it is. I've

41:29

heard him ever like throw his teammates

41:31

under the boss I ah what a

41:34

man who nitro on our food and

41:36

sometimes he doesn't like men are game

41:38

plan was and whereas was without seeming.

41:41

Oh what is it Such He knows his

41:43

own. Dan Quinn of a Bit of Maryland

41:45

is Berlin. Mike Mccarthy I as I know

41:48

I researched Jerry Jones or do not own

41:50

are under the bus. But. There

41:52

was a he had some guests on

41:54

it's Stephen A on and steam and

41:56

I was like oh I get to

41:58

do my dad stuff. He

42:00

was cooking and and and

42:02

and Michael Parsons like I've seen Dakin

42:05

big moment and then Stephen He's yes,

42:07

I'm again again again This is and

42:10

this would just similarly and the you

42:12

know, I respect Stephen a but if

42:14

then afterwards Michael was

42:16

like, all right now pass rushing drew Unfair

42:20

like to of course Stephen a is gonna

42:22

be better at that But Mike is entering

42:25

I know I get it But I my

42:27

point is and he is putting himself up

42:29

for criticism So I get I it's it's

42:31

fair game but I don't look

42:34

at this as I look

42:36

at Michael Parsons as should wants to

42:39

be part of the solution Understands

42:41

maybe because of some of the criticism that there

42:43

is an accountability issue or a culture issue But

42:46

hasn't solved how to fix it and

42:49

he's trying to figure it out in

42:51

real time Yeah, and it's for Bleacher

42:53

Report. Well, yeah, that's what I'm

42:55

saying. It's like Bleacher

42:57

Report is the one winning this right?

43:00

Yeah, we were when you could I mean he could be

43:02

like, you know What not doing the podcast? Would

43:04

that hurt the team? No, that would

43:06

help as great as the podcast is

43:09

for us He really should

43:11

stop. I want to get in his pocket. But can I

43:13

so can I ask you real quick? I know we have

43:15

less than a minute here does it I

43:18

know we always talk about players don't get in

43:20

other people You know don't count another man's money

43:22

those types of thing. Does a coach does Mike

43:24

McCarthy have the authority to say

43:27

You can't do that. You can't do

43:29

the podcast or is it is that

43:31

now like buddy I'm off the clock

43:33

and I'm not doing anything against the

43:36

rules like that would cause a real

43:38

problem Yeah, I I don't think that

43:41

It depends on what the conduct detrimental to

43:43

the team is. So If you feel like

43:45

an action that a player is taking is

43:47

conduct detrimental No, you can then potentially find

43:49

the player with those things, but it's It's

43:52

a gray area. It's a slippery slope and

43:54

you don't really want to have to be

43:56

in a position, right? Do that? You Want

43:58

your guys to go out? The and be

44:00

successful and make money and and all those days

44:02

he just don't want them to do it at

44:04

the expense of the rest of the group. Jerry

44:06

could do it if he'd stop talking himself. Has

44:09

gotta have a land drops or in

44:11

errands for can already knew I tried

44:13

game starts off and and you could

44:15

say don't identify this great oh ho

44:17

ho ho the things I didn't know

44:19

soon. As

44:24

you know, regular colors, My

44:27

regular. All

44:38

be on our. Server

44:53

no other. The

44:56

throne. And

44:59

it was nice. Quarterback

45:03

was a little for a strong

45:05

the first. Mate

45:10

for me alone in order and

45:12

once again. Thought

45:17

they might go through. When

45:20

you're the only team in the league now. In

45:25

what Moral Duty and dog and

45:27

you mentioned in the for all

45:29

the she's did was go to

45:31

on they put their feet up

45:33

on the house and eight some

45:35

sandwiches. Are

45:38

you guys think that the

45:40

twenty you know was was

45:42

supposed to reflect the usual?

45:44

Fuck that? Exactly right. Hand.

45:54

Man send a message to the so

45:56

the shows. in

45:59

the way we We're going to be

46:01

nothing from the real designer we've ever

46:03

seen. Yeah, we'll be back in a

46:05

little bit. Live

46:14

from New York, it's a show that

46:16

is preparing to go to the parade

46:18

in Kansas City. Be nice

46:20

to Brooke. Be nice. I'm beloved.

46:22

Yeah, Wild's is fine. Be like the world.

46:25

I'm not going to be last year. I

46:27

am wondering if that's what's going to be

46:29

this year. Today, how much longer will the

46:31

49ers Super Bowl window be open? Meanwhile,

46:34

we discussed the right to party

46:36

and how you need to fight for it as

46:39

we prepare for Travis Kelce's and the Chiefs parade.

46:41

But right now, as you saw on

46:43

Sunday, the mountain

46:45

treacherous for other quarterbacks,

46:49

inevitable for its name's sake,

46:52

the Super Bowl confetti serves as

46:55

the ultimate snowball. Alas, we start

46:57

anew on a brand new

46:59

track in a segment we're calling

47:02

a way too early 2024. Season

47:07

edition of Mahomes Mountain. This

47:09

is brand new. It's brand new. Kevin Wild,

47:11

thank you for the great introduction. And you

47:13

know what? This season, Coach

47:16

Mangini is going to have the reaction

47:18

to the Mahomes Mountain and the tears

47:20

like he has the bubba. I just

47:23

feel he is going to love it.

47:25

He is going to endorse it. First though, so

47:27

as you know, as a maximum of 28 people

47:29

on the mountain, because seven level for mountains. That

47:31

means these guys not on it. Drake may even

47:33

be a top three pick. You couldn't quite make

47:35

it. Will Levitt. I actually like some things I

47:38

saw from you. You're not going to make it.

47:40

Everyone else knows they're not going to make it.

47:42

Not on the mountain. Because he

47:44

was barely on the mountain before he got hurt. I

47:47

don't know. OK, that's fine. Daniel Jones

47:50

Mountain, you and Greg Jennings can scale

47:52

it together. None of those guys are

47:54

going to be starters. Row

47:56

seven. Not bad, by the way. Guys,

48:00

you have some level of optimism that

48:02

they can bounce back or get back

48:05

to their previous selves of all the

48:07

guys. And Jayden Daniels, you're

48:09

the Patriots, I think he's the guy you hope falls

48:11

to three. I am obviously a

48:14

rookie, so you can't put him too high

48:16

up. Anthony Richardson is the guys on this

48:18

level that I personally have the most optimism

48:20

in. I thought he looked really good before

48:22

he got hurt. Row six. What

48:25

a jam-packed row. Two

48:27

number one picks. The

48:29

last two quarterbacks to lose in the

48:31

Super Bowl. A four-time MVP. Tuat-tongue-a-bello

48:34

is the MVP favorite at one point

48:36

this season. That's how stacked the off-season

48:38

edition of the Mountain is. Those are

48:40

the names on level six now to

48:42

level five. Jordan Love might

48:44

be too low, I'm not sure. And listen,

48:47

I understand. I get it. I

48:49

get it. People are going to say Trevor is

48:51

too hot. Yeah.

48:55

But Trevor Lawrence has been called

48:57

by many people. Peyton Manning

48:59

2.0 and everyone knows that Peyton

49:01

around this time of his career had

49:03

the playoffs, playoffs year with Jim Orr.

49:05

Where it didn't work out and it

49:07

turned out just fine for him. Caleb

49:09

is maybe a touch too low and

49:11

shout out to two

49:13

of our last pure just dropped back passers.

49:16

Not going to beat you with our ladies,

49:18

Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff. Kurt was playing

49:20

great this year until he got hurt. Jared

49:22

Goff played well throughout. Fourth row. Wild

49:25

talent all with their own

49:27

question works. For separate it's about age and

49:29

injury at this point. That is the question

49:32

work with him. For Lamar and Dak, it

49:34

is can you replicate what you've done in

49:36

the regular seasons in the postseason and for

49:38

Herbert it is when will the eye test

49:40

line up with the standings? When

49:43

will because we all understand how talented he is

49:45

and the wild stuff you can do but the

49:48

wins have not come along with it. All right.

49:50

Third row. These guys are all unquestioned stuff. And

49:53

if you are a coach of any of these

49:55

teams, you are saying, you know

49:58

what? Maybe. The

50:00

bar guy plays as a game he can

50:02

go toe to toe with that forms and

50:04

when burrow sit in my one Cd haven't

50:07

had the opportunity to jot down as come

50:09

as close as you can without actually winning

50:11

the game but as play well in

50:13

most the both while abilities are also. Totally.

50:16

Vague because nobody deserves to be

50:18

within on a roll of the

50:20

best quarterback. We've been the most

50:22

talented quarterback we've ever seen. The

50:24

greatest start soon and appropriate we've

50:27

ever seen Patrick Roy being more

50:29

Homes the second. There is no

50:31

way too early edition coach or

50:33

More Homes Mountains. For. Rewrite:

50:37

Your way year way too early and and to

50:39

see me green you do. Is

50:42

I am. I have a lot of

50:44

questions for the first courses as Lamar

50:46

Jackson and this is narrative that I

50:48

don't love Lamar Jackson and that I

50:51

I don't appreciate what he can do

50:53

it and it's not true. I think

50:55

that Lamar a special and and have

50:58

a unique center towers and when he

51:00

plays lose thousands, he's eve as dominant

51:02

a quarterback as anybody there is and

51:04

he's in at least. Be in that

51:07

second row Cc with Lamar is when

51:09

they go to me playoff games and

51:11

suddenly they're gonna. they're gonna move away

51:13

from what he does so well and

51:15

take the pressure off a defense and

51:17

that's why you get results are you

51:19

get For to me when Lamar is

51:21

doing the things that Lamar does well

51:23

he's he's as good as anybody and

51:26

could easily be were partridges. okay with

51:28

that has birds too far but it

51:30

is is nice the or biggest coach

51:32

is unfairly maligned as being anti the

51:34

more when I think you. Are more

51:36

anti the change of all things and

51:38

the plan and skeptical as it's kind

51:40

of stuff something down zombies throat that

51:42

they don't do as well because you

51:44

think it has to be in. I

51:47

have three eight. bucks each

51:49

component it says not the right approach so

51:51

we're more obviously is more accomplished player than

51:53

any one on the mountain other than my

51:55

home from a regular season stem from opposes

51:58

them point I have it I have CJ

52:00

ahead of him and Lamar would say oh

52:02

I beat him yeah in the playoffs and

52:04

so I would understand as like those would

52:07

be fair wait those would

52:09

be fair criticisms I listen I am a big

52:11

believer in CJ if CJ wasn't in the AFC

52:13

I think he would have been a good MVP

52:15

pick I don't know if the Texas record is

52:17

gonna be good enough I just I

52:20

think that we saw Lamar with

52:23

as good of a team

52:25

as he's ever had with home field

52:27

against the weakest Chiefs team and we

52:29

saw what that looked like in the

52:31

postseason so I would just have more

52:33

optimism for Allen CJ or burrow if

52:35

they were to try to topple Mahal

52:38

well look I'm stunned what because the

52:40

first few last few days or maybe

52:42

just yesterday yeah I thought you were

52:44

starting to come around on Brock perino

52:47

I was maybe last week to Friday

52:49

night things about Brock perdy so I'm

52:54

stunned he's so low I will give you this what

52:57

it would it would be his row for

53:00

which one not his row what's the

53:02

row above row five okay row five

53:04

to seven is jammed or

53:06

five and six are some yeah some

53:09

good names in there I will give

53:11

you that Baker however I'd Baker's my

53:13

guy now yeah however oh yeah I

53:15

forgot I gotta move perdy up all

53:18

right obviously I'm moving perdy

53:20

up to the Stafford Lamar

53:23

back row over row because here's why

53:25

he's checked every box thank you what

53:28

else does he need to do he's

53:30

got the great individual numbers which separates

53:32

him from a Jimmy Garoppolo who just

53:35

won with Chan and but didn't you

53:37

know have great individual numbers he's proven

53:39

no stage is too big he faced

53:42

time rating his first start had two

53:44

touchdowns in a victory he is first

53:46

game 330 yards three touchdown

53:49

his first Super Bowl space in

53:51

Patrick Mahal and the best defense

53:53

in the league any play better

53:55

than Lamar and to a D

53:57

against them very for

54:00

them to win and then and so I

54:02

don't know what other box let's look at

54:04

this what he did in the Super Bowl.

54:06

This graphic will stun some people. I got

54:08

two of them actually. So first of all

54:11

most fourth quarter or overtime

54:13

go ahead drive in

54:15

a Super Bowl. He's using my texts against

54:18

me. He has three inches in one game.

54:24

In his first Super Bowl he broke

54:26

that record if it's a quote-unquote record.

54:28

Alright but check this out. Look

54:31

at the next one. This is the most

54:33

in Super Bowl history. So Brady's got nine

54:35

of them but he's been to 10 Super

54:37

Bowls. But old guys four

54:39

of them but he's been to four Super

54:41

Bowls. Brock Perdue, Eli's got three but he's

54:44

been to two and Brock three

54:46

in one Super Bowl. Like the dude I

54:49

don't know what else you want to hear.

54:51

What's so promised. What's so wild? There's

54:53

some graphics I'm like oh that's interesting.

54:55

You often hear me say oh that's

54:57

interesting. You didn't hear that. Oh that's

54:59

a great graphic. Three go ahead drive.

55:01

That means he had to deal with

55:03

hell. I got it. I got it.

55:06

I have to prove for the record

55:08

and do it for me. I agree

55:10

with that because it was three times

55:12

that if the defense had stopped them

55:14

they would have been Super Bowl champions.

55:17

My

55:19

problem

55:21

with

55:23

your initial point is there is not a

55:26

single person and no people be mad at

55:28

me. There's not a single person above Perdue

55:30

on the mountain. Don't

55:33

say it. That I think the

55:35

Niners would be better with every single

55:37

person above them on the mountain. Here's

55:40

what I just said. I

55:42

just believe that. Stafford had

55:44

tremendous weapon suits. Great Office

55:46

of Mind, Islamic Bay, Hookah,

55:48

Hooper Cup, Kyrie Williams. Was

55:50

he? His numbers aren't better.

55:52

I understand. I heard his

55:54

numbers were better this year.

55:56

They both had. Jalen Hurts

55:58

bounce back season. Oh, checks

56:00

every box for a bounce back. Here

56:02

are the boxes. Health, level 10.

56:04

I never believed he was fully 100% healthy

56:07

this year. Leadership, anybody wanna give him less

56:09

than a 10? Nah, come

56:12

on. Oh, give me a break. What are

56:14

you, right for the Philadelphia Inquirer? I

56:16

don't like it, still like at nature. You

56:18

like fortune cookies? Come on, he's awesome. Weapons,

56:21

nine out of 10. Sure, I'll

56:23

give 40 out of 10. Offensive

56:26

coordinator, Kellan Moore. Do

56:28

we still love him? Eight

56:30

out of 10, nine? I don't know, buddy. I

56:33

don't know. He was a golden boy. How

56:35

good was that guy better and went to the Chargers

56:37

and they got worse? Well, that's an indictment on Justin

56:39

Herbert. Now, chip on his shoulder effect. I

56:45

still think Jalen hurts is that guy. Also,

56:48

experience. I like a little like, it's just

56:50

a Super Bowl hangover. We've seen it a

56:52

hundred times. Just a late Super Bowl hangover.

56:54

You want me to elevate Jalen? Yes, he's

56:56

great, we know he's great. I'm just not

56:58

comfortable elevating Jalen ahead of Brock Curtis. There's

57:01

nothing there. He

57:03

was a Super Bowl hangover. I

57:05

know, you say that in the van up

57:07

there. Caleb Williams. Kyle Shanahan would

57:09

call him. We've got a little bit of a last-hour. We've

57:12

got a little bit of a Merrill Hodge, my friend. Okay,

57:14

a little bit of a... Welcome

57:16

back to an electric show. Both

57:19

end of the game with a handful of pressures and this is

57:21

my favorite play where he's running in the wrong direction for a

57:23

good 10 seconds. Coach,

57:25

you like that? Good awareness.

57:28

He was the first designed to run for the

57:30

holes in the floor. He was supposed to. He's

57:32

got his balls in. He

57:34

showed that. He did exactly

57:36

the guy I was saying. Steve Wilson got

57:38

on him about the record when he was

57:40

on the play. Nobody believes how he's running.

57:43

Great call. Nevertheless, they had a little more

57:45

topical. He's an all-time great player. I'm

57:48

sorry, it was a good trip. I

57:53

feel like it was hard for anybody to say

57:55

much after this one. We've been

57:57

so close so many times that... There's

58:00

only so many more opportunities that we have.

58:03

We have amazing core players that

58:06

are going to be back and

58:10

we have to be better. OK. 49ers

58:13

Super Bowl window still wide open.

58:16

In order to agree with this question you have to say

58:18

yes, I think it's wide open. Yeah, I do. It's spring

58:20

day. I think it's wide open. I

58:22

think they're in the inferior conference and they have a

58:24

talent edge on everyone they play in

58:26

the conference. So I don't, I'm

58:29

not saying there should be the overwhelming favorites. What

58:31

about Brock? Yeah. Don't you

58:33

think a lot of that too is the NFC

58:35

versus AFC? That's what I mean. The inferior conference.

58:37

Yeah, I would not think it's, here's the thing.

58:40

You can have the inferior quarterback in

58:42

a playoff game and pick a team

58:45

off. It's very hard to do it four

58:47

times in a row. And no matter what

58:49

you think of Brock, you would potentially be in

58:51

a, like if Brock had the Chiefs

58:53

path this year in the AFC, I think

58:55

he's better than Tua. But then

58:58

there's a significant disadvantage to Josh, significant

59:00

disadvantage to Lamar, my opinion, and then

59:02

I guess my home is in the NFC. And

59:04

then, so I, so yeah, I think it's still

59:06

wide open for, but I think

59:08

that, Brew, I think it stays wide

59:10

open for one more year until they

59:12

have to pay Brock or make a

59:14

decision there. That's what I was going

59:16

to say. In the next year, of course it is wide open,

59:19

but Brock, that's

59:22

going to be the thing. Everybody's coming back.

59:24

I mean, they chase Young's like their biggest

59:26

free agent. And I do think he's unhappy,

59:28

but he's under contract. It's a weird spot.

59:30

Yeah. So, so Brock that

59:32

you said it, I mean, Brock has to play. I think

59:34

they really need to win it next year. Beyond

59:37

Brock, if they pay Brock, obviously they could lose

59:39

some guys. If they decide we

59:41

want to keep these guys and go with another

59:43

young quarterback, then there'll be a

59:45

question there. But I think there's another issue, coach.

59:48

I think, and we've seen it kind of with

59:50

Buffalo and you've alluded to it, burnout.

59:54

Like if they keep getting close,

59:57

like with Jim Harbaugh, remember two

59:59

NFC. championship games, a Super Bowl or

1:00:01

three NFC Championship games. One of them they got

1:00:03

to the Super Bowl and in his fourth year

1:00:05

they were eight and eight. And

1:00:07

so I think if they don't win it

1:00:10

next year, they get close again but don't win

1:00:12

it, I think there could

1:00:14

be a burnout factor where they may need

1:00:16

to make some changes. Yeah so

1:00:18

they're in good shape that right now they're not in

1:00:20

great shape so from a salary cap perspective they're $500,000

1:00:22

over the salary cap and put

1:00:25

some 21st or under the salary cap which puts

1:00:27

them 21st but all their core

1:00:29

guys are signed. Now there's six defensive

1:00:31

linemen that are free agents so they're gonna

1:00:33

have to replace some of that depth on

1:00:35

the defensive line. The good news is that

1:00:37

they have an extra third round pick, an

1:00:39

extra fourth round pick, two extra sixth round

1:00:41

picks so they can and a full draft

1:00:43

outside of that except they don't have their

1:00:45

seventh so all that stuff is positive but

1:00:47

the next point you've got Brandon and Iuk

1:00:49

who started and say hey I might not

1:00:51

be back and typically what happens is when

1:00:53

you win, guys want to start getting paid

1:00:55

everybody feels like they deserve more money than

1:00:57

they have and there's a bunch of 49ers

1:01:00

that are paid a lot of money. Iuk's not

1:01:02

necessarily on the high end of that so you

1:01:04

get into that element as well and then the

1:01:06

last time they went to the Super Bowl they

1:01:08

went to six and ten the year after so

1:01:11

they really suffered from the Super Bowl hangover.

1:01:13

How well are they going to deal with

1:01:15

that? From a quarterback standpoint I

1:01:17

like the fact that Brock showed us

1:01:19

things that he hasn't been able to

1:01:21

do like coming from behind. He should

1:01:23

be better. It's wide open but this

1:01:25

offseason is going to be bumpier than I

1:01:28

think people believe. What,

1:01:30

Wiles? Nothing, you go. No, go. No. Well you don't

1:01:33

believe in Brock but you believe in the 49ers so

1:01:35

we're always kind of trying to

1:01:37

play with that and last this year

1:01:40

you're like the Wiles and the Yikes

1:01:42

but he slowly started to win you

1:01:44

over. Do you have more boxes that

1:01:46

Brock needs to check until you become

1:01:48

a real believer? So okay

1:01:50

so what I was very

1:01:53

impressed by this postseason is

1:01:57

in games prior to the Super

1:01:59

Bowl where they yikes were

1:02:01

off the charts. Just some

1:02:03

mind-numbingly bad decisions early. He

1:02:06

didn't let it wreck him and I

1:02:09

and I did think that he made

1:02:11

some significant obvious plays down

1:02:13

the stretch of both of those games

1:02:15

and two weeks to think about

1:02:17

playing in the Super Bowl against Patrick Mahomes

1:02:19

and all of that and the fact that

1:02:21

his best quarter was his first quarter and

1:02:23

then as Brew mentioned well I didn't think

1:02:25

he made a ton of the play to

1:02:27

use check was really good that you include

1:02:29

in the highlights but

1:02:31

he you know he's kept the steady

1:02:34

hand I think that he

1:02:36

has very significant physical limitations.

1:02:38

What are those? Like

1:02:41

arm strength? He can move. Wait hold

1:02:44

on guys guys guys not not

1:02:47

compared to the great athletes of

1:02:49

the position. How many great athletes?

1:02:52

Right the guys he needs to get through. His

1:02:54

mobility is good I actually think he'll

1:02:56

run more in the field. So I

1:02:58

think that would be a terrible idea

1:03:01

because he's small and frail. No he'll

1:03:03

slide. I'm not gonna say

1:03:05

he's gonna be a runner but I'm saying he has enough

1:03:10

mobility to extend his legs. This is the blessing

1:03:12

of low expectations we saw him we saw him

1:03:14

make three good scrambles in the Lions game and

1:03:16

now it's like oh. In the in the running

1:03:19

game. I saw him get a horse collar tackle.

1:03:25

Also our YouTube channel getting up there

1:03:28

still a little disappointing we are not

1:03:30

catching these. Can I shout out one

1:03:32

other possible? No. What's right? Metal times.

1:03:35

Great guys. What do you mean stay

1:03:37

focused? I'm focused. You're out here like

1:03:39

Micah Parsons. He's a box product. A

1:03:41

superstar. Warriors and Utah

1:03:44

Draymond hit a half-court shot.

1:03:47

12-9 and 8 Warriors won

1:03:49

the game. Not good enough for a

1:03:51

medal for him but his teammate got

1:03:53

one. Bronze medal. Chef Curry 25-6-10 as

1:03:56

the warriors try to study themselves as

1:03:58

they have nice winning streak. Jazz

1:04:01

on the verge of that. Yeah

1:04:03

pumpkin alert. Yeah pumpkin alert. They're

1:04:05

actual pumpkin or silver medal brews

1:04:07

gonna be mad at one the

1:04:09

gold win beat 27 14 10

1:04:12

win over the Raptors. You're right dribble

1:04:14

double with block and

1:04:17

then but the gold brew I think you'll

1:04:19

agree with gold maybe. Yeah it is 36

1:04:23

18 and 5 and a win over the

1:04:25

defending champ in the game the

1:04:27

game they needed and so we're gonna go ahead

1:04:29

and give the gold to Janis there's a medal

1:04:31

stand from a great night

1:04:33

in the Association. Chief's parade tomorrow

1:04:35

we're headed to the airport shortly

1:04:38

after this segment. Nick

1:04:41

I'm gonna ask you what

1:04:43

or who will be the highlight of

1:04:45

the parade and are you

1:04:47

worried a bonus question are you worried about

1:04:49

the reception for brew who picked the 49ers

1:04:51

and the guest chief? So funny Wiles so

1:04:54

and you've been just outstanding today

1:04:56

by the way your second question

1:04:58

is the answer my first. The MVP

1:05:01

of the parade is gonna be

1:05:03

the fans of Kansas City showing what

1:05:06

Midwestern nice they are because they're

1:05:08

going to be in it

1:05:10

through and done to the Chiefs to

1:05:13

the Eagles what he did to the Chiefs

1:05:15

and we were going to Philly he'd be

1:05:18

dodging the whole game instead it'll be some

1:05:20

night you know a little poking I wouldn't be

1:05:22

surprised there's a you know a placard of

1:05:24

cowboy brew or something fun but

1:05:26

aside from that I think that

1:05:33

they're gonna be very nice so the fans will

1:05:36

be the MVP. Travis Kelsey is gonna be

1:05:38

the MVP. Well he's gonna be great. Well you know he has

1:05:40

to fight for his right to party so

1:05:42

we'll be there at what time exactly are we

1:05:44

gonna go? It was really

1:05:46

early last. We're gonna be there early.

1:05:49

Yeah we look forward to seeing everyone again.

1:05:52

Also I get to meet the mayor again. Yes

1:05:54

the mayor fair. Oh last year we

1:05:56

all met the governors of Missouri and

1:05:58

Kansas and then. and then had

1:06:01

gave them great takes. Governor

1:06:03

Parsons and Kelly and Kansas is great. Held court with

1:06:05

them. I don't even know if you knew they were

1:06:08

the government. By the way, they were adoring them.