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I treat freestyling like an
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instrument. So even on my worst day,
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hopefully it drops to a
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level that is still solid. What
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is training involved? So
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there's a lot of different
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techniques involved in what I do.
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So I'll explain one of the foundational ones.
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And if you say this, will the listener
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and the viewer and me, once I hear
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this, will I be able to do it?
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You might not be able to do it right
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away. I think, but eventually within like eventually 15
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minutes. Within 15 minutes, you'll master
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it. And suddenly my videos will be completely un-entertaining or
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impressive to you. But I will give you credit for
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having taught me how to do it and giving away
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the secret. So the
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secret to the flow. Yes. You're
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gonna put us in the know. Go.
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You already got it, but yeah. It's easy. You
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know what you have is. It's easy. So
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give me a random word. Nothing.
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So back in the day when I was first learning
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how to freestyle, I didn't have any technique. So if
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somebody threw the word nothing, you just
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reactively say it and then you scramble to try
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to find hopefully something that rhymes with it in
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the moment. So that would sound like this. You
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say nothing. And then I say, nothing.
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I'm not bluffing. I'm, right? So it
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sounds like that. That's a beginner freestyle.
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Right. I like stuffing. Oh
13:24
my God. Yeah, perfect. Perfect. This
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is gonna go viral. Take that clip. Harry
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and Howie. Yeah. And people
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are not gonna, cause we didn't plan that.
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We did not plan that. We did not.
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Oh, unbelievably. We didn't plan that at all.
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That's amazing. I said nothing. You
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said bluffing and then I said stuffing. You said,
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I love stuffing. Is that true? Do
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you love stuffing? No, but I did it for the art. Yeah.
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And that's the thing. You have to be willing to go there.
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So good. Setup punchline
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is the technique that I use, which is
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the inverse of what I just did. You
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know, that's like comedy. Exactly. There
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are a lot of parallels between. Right,
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right. Yeah. I'm freestyling. I
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love it, man. Bars. I'm
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feeling what you're putting down. Wow. Yeah.
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Well, don't touch it. I
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won't. I'll let it be.
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You look pretty healthy. Do you eat healthy?
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I try to. I try to. Are
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you on a special diet? Are you keto? No,
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not really. I just try to eat
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lots of vegetables. I'm
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not vegan or anything. I eat meat.
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I shouldn't eat dairy, but it's problematic
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because I love pizza and
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cheese in general. Are you lactose intolerant? I'm
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lactose intolerant, yeah. But you're not, though. You're
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not. I mean, I tolerate it. Then I find
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a way. So that's what I'm saying. If
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you're totally intolerant, that's like, it
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doesn't, I'm lactose annoyed.
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Yeah, yes. Lactose is uncomfortable.
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And then you're ass freestyles.
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Yeah, exactly. In a way, it's reminiscent of
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how it used to Do
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you ever eaten rocks? I've never eaten rocks,
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no. No, we had a listener, Carl,
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his mom eats rocks. It's not so much that
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she eats the rocks, but when she eats the
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rocks, first of all, she's not in great shape.
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Yeah. But I would imagine. I
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would imagine rocks aren't great for you. I
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mean, that's why you would imagine it's filled
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with minerals and. Well, yeah,
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but I mean, how do you digest the stone? I
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don't know. That's a good question. That
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is a good question. Yeah. Well, we're
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not really talking about what
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it does to our system as much as when
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somebody is eating like that. Like, do you
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eat? And do you
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like eating alone? Or do you like conversing and
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talking with other people when you're eating? So
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me and my fiance, we often
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are eating in front of the
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television. That's French for what? Fiance,
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future wife. Is it really? Like,
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I know that's what it means, but does fiance
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mean that in French? I'm actually not sure. Could
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you look up the word? vessel.
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Yeah that's beautiful I mean well yeah once you
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start practicing free association it's hard to turn it
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off. So
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can I see the lady eating the rocks one more time? I
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just I'm fascinated by how he's reacting.
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The truth of the matter if I want to get serious for a
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minute. The
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son's issue is
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that once she starts eating the rocks she's
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in la-la-la and it's like she doesn't pay
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any attention to him. Right. Don't
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you think don't you think my
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mom's eating fucking rocks what's
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wrong with my mom? Yeah my mom shouldn't
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be eating fucking rocks right not how she's reacting
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to you. Well that was my point I
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would object you know I would hurry to the
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rock eating yeah flat out like regardless of
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the fact that it's distracting her from being my
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loving parent it's more so just the you
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know the rock eating itself. I agree with you
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yeah and it's not like it's a surprise
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you could see that she has a hammer at
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the beginning of the tape she breaks the rocks.
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Yeah it's almost I almost can't watch the
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teeth actually connecting with and biting off a piece
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of rock that's disturbing to me you know
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that's the part that bothers you. Yeah because it's
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like you know biting the fork it's just
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like you know how does that make you feel
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the idea of biting a metal fork does
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it. I haven't really
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thought about it. Does it give you a
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physical sensation? Can you imagine her in a
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public restroom like next to you just
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hearing the drops of shevels.
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Yeah just chipping the porcelain. Can
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I see can I see
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her one more time? I do eat
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more rocks when I'm nervous or upset it does
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like bring me down and makes me feel more
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calm. That's hard for me. When my mom eats
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rocks it's kind of
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like she goes to La La Land she
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doesn't seem to be paying attention to anything
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going on around her. Okay so he said
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yeah she said she eats more rocks when
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she's nervous or upset. Right. Maybe
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maybe my mama's upset with me maybe
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I'm maybe I got to figure out how
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to not upset mama so she don't so
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she don't need to rock. random
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ones go high-pitched. I used to do high-pitched
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voices. I did Bobby's World and
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Gizmo. I know. I use that in one of
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your freestyles. I would love to do that. Let's
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release something. I would love to do a freestyle and
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then you do the voiceover,
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you know. How do I do that? Like I
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would send you the freestyle in my voice from
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the perspective of let's say Bobby and
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then you know you rerecord it with
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Bobby's actual voice. I'll do that or
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I can also be your hype man. Oh that
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would be sick actually. A song featuring Bobby.
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Yeah exactly. Yeah. Should we
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try it? I don't know. We could try it.
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Okay. What do you want to do? I'll just I'll do
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a rhyme and then you'll fill in with some ad libs.
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I don't know that I can do that but let's try.
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Okay let's try. Okay. Should we just dive
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in? I'm trying to split. I love that our director is trying
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to split the screen but you're
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not even on the screen. If
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I move this way will that help you? Will
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that help you and then you don't have to go okay. Well
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you're not on he's not on the screen. I can't
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see what you're seeing. Okay it
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doesn't matter. He's trying to direct. He was
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improvising. Yeah. He's not the director is not
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great at improvising. I don't know if every
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role on the show should freestyle. Do
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you know what I mean? Like some like maybe the
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director should have freestyle. What about sex? Should
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that be freestyle or should there be a plan? I
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think it should be a freestyle once it once it
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commences. Do you think we should call the fiance and
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ask? I
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don't think she'll want to discuss it.
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Right. It's such a public. That's a
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management decision. Exactly. Okay go ahead start.
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Oh yeah freestyle with Bobby. Okay yo
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off the top my freestyle's godly. Harry
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Mack collab here with Bobby. Yeah I'm
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about to let it unfurl. Yo we
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about to go to Bobby's world. Yeah
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so come follow along. Y'all never expected to
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hear Bobby on the song. When
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I spit damn I'm great kid.
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And like Bobby I'm animated. Yes!
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Like that! Yeah! Wow!
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We did that! We did that! That was incredible!
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That was amazing! That was incredible! I love that!
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I've never really been part of it. We used
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to sing a lot on the show. We
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had an album out. We won a Grammy! I
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got nominated for a Grammy. Really? Yeah. That's amazing.
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Why? You don't think I'm that good or worthy of that?
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I think you're completely worthy of a Grammy. But
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you said it's amazing. So
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far today, you didn't
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think I would be doing any research or even know
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who you are. And you're amazed that maybe I got
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nominated for a Grammy. I don't think I did. I
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think I'm lying. I
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mean... So that's why it's amazing. You know? Because it
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didn't happen. So do you live with your
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girlfriend right now? Yes. So you're already
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in and... Do you have children? We do not have children. Do
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you want children? Yeah, we're talking about it. Why
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are you talking about it? Just improvise. See what
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happens. Talk about a
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flow. Yeah.
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Family planning. I don't know if that should be freestyled.
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Really? Well, I think that's... How old are you? I'm
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34. Oh,
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you're still a baby. Same age as my son. Oh,
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okay. Yeah. Yeah. And...
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But you
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cohabitate. Is that weird to
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live, cohabitate,
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and marry, and be managed all by
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the same person? For
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us, it works really well. I think it could be
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weird. You know, in a lot of situations, I don't
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think it would always work. For us, it works. But
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it does require some attention. You
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know, like we have to have boundaries. We have
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to know when we're
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working and when we're not working, like
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when we're relating to each other as
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like manager and creator, as opposed to
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when we're relating to each other as,
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you know, a romantic partnership. You go
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shopping together? Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Is
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that hard? Like you go, I want this cereal,
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and she'll say, I want that cereal. At
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the grocery store. Do you know
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what you want, both of you? Or you don't argue over
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that stuff? Yeah, we basically have it figured out. She's
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gluten free, so I end up eating gluten. I'm
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not saying anything. I'm waiting for no. I saw you give a
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signal Freestyle
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is not subtle two guys just floating
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in a puddle y'all know when I
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shine bright I'm beaming these two cats
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a little really streaming. Yeah, yo, they
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heard I'm a fiend I'm on the
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scene. They really in the murky stream
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y'all know my freestyle is right now
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We're godly water so dirty you can't
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even see the body My
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skills can't be exaggerated looking like two heads
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that got decapitated Separate from the rest of
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the body it seems while they simply float
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through the murky stream Who would have thought
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this would happen while the Mac and grips
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on the mic to take action with rapping?
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And y'all know that I can easily see these
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two guys, but they seem kind of creepy Why
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are they staring at me while I'm rapping tight
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and by the way, why is the imagery black
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and white when did this happen? I'm confused without
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their bodies these two dudes will lose just a
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couple heads floating on the water Are they decapitated
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and did they get slaughtered and honestly where is
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the stream headed? Oh get it headed beheaded Yo,
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I said it in one take with no edit
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every microphone that I'm on be getting shredded I
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mean these guys really know how to deliver, but
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how come they're not getting caught up in the
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river I mean it seems as though the water
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movements average and it seems like they get swept
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up in the rapids But instead they are staying
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stationary and that's why this video here is amazing
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Harry I can't imagine where the body's at that
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must be vital This is the type of clip
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that would surely go viral and later on after
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I excel when I come back in two years
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Howie Mandel will say let me show you a
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clip Is that you and I'll say of course
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that's me, you know, dude We did it together
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just a couple years back the first time that
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you invited the Harry to the Mac to come
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up on your Chair and sit up in the
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blue one so that I could rhyme off the
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top like what it do son And now I'm
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here rocking the whole world. I see you got
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a fishbowl. I see you got a squirrel I
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see you got a blue bottle or something. I'm
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not sure. I hope it's not toxic I hope
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it is pure and every time I rhyme, you
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know, I let it linger remove the blue dress
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to reveal the middle finger Next
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time. It would've been good. Do you practice
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the drums a lot? Yeah,
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I've been practicing the drums more and more because
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I gigged for years as a drummer. And then
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when my career started picking up as a rapper,
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I kind of took a hiatus from the drums
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for a little while. But
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I got my drum set up again, and I've been practicing,
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getting back into it. Trying to figure out
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how to drum and freestyle at the same
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time is very challenging. Is it? It's hard,
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yeah. Yeah. It's like one has
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to take a backseat to the other. I
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want to be able to do both full
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force. Right. But I find that really
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challenging. I
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was going to ask you if you wanted a drum, because
48:39
we have drums. Oh. You want to
48:41
try to improvise with the band? I
48:44
would love that. We've got a mic set up
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for him, too. We can play the beat for him, or he can
48:48
hit the drums, or whatever he wants. We can do both, man. I
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could try drumming and rapping. I could try drumming and rapping. Let's go
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over there, and you have a mic. And I
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will take off your headset, go over to the
48:57
band, and you'll be able to hear me. Can
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he hear me over there? It's going
49:02
to get muddled once we start the music. It'll
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be harder for him to hear you. Can you
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guys take a camera off the pod, or
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you can get me on a phone and give me a mic?
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Check, check, check. One, two. Can you hear my? Can you hear me? You can do
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writing, unless you want me to give me some more game. Check,
49:18
check. Ayo. H Mac, off
49:20
the top of the dome. Every time I
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freestyle, I'll be locked in the zone. Impossible
49:25
poems. I know I get to popping with
49:27
these. Yeah. I do the drums while I'm
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dropping the freeze. I be coming off the
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dome with the band connecting. Known for spitting
49:34
rhymes in like every direction. Make a heavy
49:36
connection with the fans when I'm spitting. So
49:38
nice with the rhythm, they figured the shit
49:40
was written. This is all lifetime. Overdomes, they
49:43
bought a spot. Came to rock with how
49:45
we meant to help. Here to excel, we
49:47
do it well. I propel myself through space
49:50
while I kick more freestyle rhymes out my
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face. Y'all know the deal, though. I'm never
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faking, kicking hard like steel toes. H Mac,
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delivering the real flow. Y'all know
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I make it feel like a real flow. Shout
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to my homie and the turtles cat playin' the
50:03
keys I'm underground like the teenage mutant So how
50:05
y'all doin'? Truth in the game,
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that's what Harry is pursuing Next level with
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it when I come off top Ayo, we
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out here havin' fun and all the flow
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don't stop I said I throw a hand
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when I'm all up in the mix Comin'
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right off the top of the metal I'm
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kickin' the lyrics that's infinite I own my
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thing right now Yo, the music goes hard
50:23
Tell my homie on electric and acoustic guitar
50:25
We all connectin' while we spit this The
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vibe I'm about to fit this I begin
50:29
to laugh cuz I spit it scientific Yeah,
50:31
we makin' changes The game I rearrange this
50:33
Open up your heart I'm about to show
50:35
y'all where the flame is from Harry Mack
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Ooh, baby, Harry Mack Oh,
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muh-oh Harry is
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the Mack Mmm, mmm,
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mmm Motherfuckin' Harry Mack Oh,
50:48
muh-oh Harry Mack on the mic
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Hit her like he does Whoo,
50:53
givin' that love Harry Mack, yeah
50:57
Ooh, here we go Yeah Verse
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two, when we back in effect Every
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time I spit my bars All they
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live and direct Many lives are your
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fat We be doin' something Comin' off
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the dome And I get the session
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jumpin' Live with the band in prom,
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too Y'all know we ain't weak when
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we speak Old squad be makin' strong
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moves Yeah, hey, yo, I grip the
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mic and crush it Cuz I like
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to even my improvise a high cool
51:23
light When I'm in the spot
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I be doin' somethin' fresh Every
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flow is high, that's five 75, I
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provide the vibe I get live When
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I'm in the session, I gotta thrive Listen, within
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the game of rap They know them Mack gon'
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hold stock Y'all send my homie into shades And
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they gon' watch him shinin' We up in alignment,
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lovin' the way that I do this When I
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be comin' with lyrics right over the mic Or
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they know I broke it like a fusions, let's
51:47
go Harry Mack, ooh Motherfuckin'
51:49
Harry Mack, yeah Shit
51:52
Ooh, Harry Mack Oh,
51:55
Harry Mack Motherfuckin' Harry
51:57
Mack, oh Oh,
51:59
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