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4:09

right, Garan, you get some names on the studios,

4:11

the one on Venter and Sherman Oaks. The

4:14

Sherman Oaks one is record one. It was record one, which I want to

4:16

say, Oh man. Oh,

4:20

what was recorded there? There's a famous album

4:22

that was recorded there. And

4:24

I want to even say maybe a Chicago, I've

4:28

thought an, if not an album, a, uh, an interview or

4:32

something was recorded there. All right, go ahead. Uh, Kim

4:35

Karnes, 1981 album, mistaken identity. That's it.

4:38

Thank you, Gary. It's owned by Dr. Dre currently. Oh,

4:40

is that right? Oh, so it's still, uh, still active.

4:42

Yeah. That was a doctor's office. Oh,

4:44

it sounds like, sounds like nothing to do with medical stuff. I'm

4:46

surprised you haven't been there for an appointment. You know what? I

4:49

don't disagree with you. Tom

5:20

Petty and a bunch of other folks recorded there. He's on

5:22

that dock. Not to jump ahead a little bit, but, uh,

5:24

you and I saw the Rolling Stones

5:27

in concert last night and he was saying that

5:29

they were quick. Mick Jagger, meaning he,

5:32

uh, mentioned that they recorded a lot of their

5:34

albums in LA and I wonder where they recorded,

5:36

like including their most recent one. Yeah. His

5:39

point was that they recorded aftermath here and

5:41

then also, uh, Hackney Diamonds, the newest, like

5:43

probably what, 55 years apart. It's

5:45

crazy, right? It,

5:48

you wonder, you know, you hear these stories about, you know,

5:51

Richard Marx, when he was here, told the story about why

5:53

he sang on the Chicago, on Chicago 17,

5:55

why he's saying on Barbara Streisand's

5:57

album that he was like, he

5:59

and Donnie Osman were walking past the studio, they

6:01

said, let's pop in here. And then they said,

6:03

hey, you guys want to do backup vocals? And

6:06

it's, where is that? Right. Where are you? Magical

6:09

place. Like, can you drive

6:11

past right now and see Olivia

6:16

Rodrigo recording? Like, is she

6:18

driving in? Or is it more

6:21

like they drive onto a lot and the gate

6:23

closes behind them? It doesn't sound like that was

6:25

the case in the 70s and even 80s.

6:29

Wasn't there a big one on Sunset Boulevard,

6:31

like right around where the old Amoeba used

6:33

to be, on the

6:35

other side of the street, I think. Is that

6:37

a record or is that a rehearsal space? Maybe

6:40

it was once a studio. And then? Yeah. I

6:42

think there, but yeah, somewhere in that neighborhood, I

6:44

feel like there was one that it kind of

6:47

sounded like people, yeah, would just pull up and

6:49

then just hop out of their car and walk

6:51

across the sidewalk, open a door, and then go

6:53

make a classic album. Much

6:56

the same way we do here. There's

6:58

not a day I don't get out of my car and walk in

7:00

here that I'm not bothered by some fan or

7:02

pop-a-lots. No, no. It's really. East West

7:04

Studios is the one on Sunset, 6000

7:07

West Sunset Boulevard. Oh, OK. What about where's the

7:09

record plant at, which

7:11

I believe just closed, if I'm not mistaken.

7:15

We're asking what the record plant now. Where's that

7:18

at? That's here in LA. Because

7:20

it was on Sycamore Avenue in LA. She's

7:23

at Alberts. That's down in Hollywood too,

7:26

near Vine. That's not too

7:28

far from that Namibah again. Right in that

7:30

area. So you never knew what you were going to find when

7:32

you were walking over there. Why did these all come up? Why

7:34

did we record these? East West is where the Rolling Stones. Oh,

7:37

we got the answer on that. Oh, thank you, Garin. Thank

7:39

you. Oh, so that's the one on Sunset? That's

7:41

the one on Sunset. So again, now it would be interesting

7:43

the next time you're driving on

7:45

Sunset, is it a gated area? I

7:48

think it's that building across from that

7:50

weird little mall,

7:52

there's like an eight ounce burger and the

7:56

Urban Outfitters. And then there's a building across the street.

7:58

And I think there's a- Yeah. I think there's

8:00

a gated subterranean garage. Like

8:04

there would be for a medical building. Yeah, so you'd probably

8:06

pull in to park underground and take an elevator, at least,

8:08

and no one would ever see. You're probably right. Well,

8:12

we had a great time with that Rolling Star show last

8:14

night. Fantastic show. I brought my son Oliver,

8:16

and you brought your daughter Zoe. And

8:18

I had to

8:20

use my peripheral on this, because of the way that

8:23

we were seated. It looked like Zoe danced the entire

8:25

show. She was having a good time.

8:27

You awkwardly clapped from time to time. And then

8:29

Oliver and I tapped our feet. I

8:31

clapped when I was instructed to by Mr. Jagger. By Mr.

8:33

Jagger. And I will say this, and this is no disrespect

8:35

for you. You do not have the moves

8:38

like Jagger. That's not an insult. I think that's

8:40

a fair assessment. Not an insult. But I do

8:42

want you to please, as

8:47

I will do the words that I want you to do

8:49

the physical. This was, I got

8:53

two guys that work for me that right now are both

8:55

on their computers. Well,

8:59

that's his fucking job. That's one of his jobs. Both of them

9:01

were supposed to be on some kind of a computer. Yeah, but

9:04

he was clearly writing some missing. He

9:06

was a terrorist airman.

9:10

My guess was you were looking up more record. You were

9:12

trying to find the name of that recording studio in Venice.

9:14

That's correct. And did you locate that? Not yet. Although

9:16

for some reason in my head, it's like Sunshine something.

9:18

But I can't confirm that. We'll find out. Or

9:21

not. So at some point, right

9:23

before they do this song, of

9:27

Hackney Diamonds, he said, the first

9:29

time we, I'll do my bad. We

9:32

play in LA. Well, San Bernardino

9:35

first. Where is everybody at? Where's

9:37

Orange County? Where's San Diego? And

9:40

people would applaud. Where's Ventura? Where's

9:44

Riverside? So that makes

9:46

the rest of you Angelenos, to which he

9:48

says, what she does what, Matt? Angelenos. Please

9:50

stand up and do it. Here

9:52

we go. Get in on this. Go ahead. Mick

9:54

Jagger expressing

9:58

appreciation for the Angelenos in the house. Angelenos!

10:00

It was a single jazz hand.

10:02

With the cr- and the craziest

10:04

that only a rock star can

10:06

kind of pull off where you

10:08

don't want to murder him. It

10:11

was- It was insane. It was-

10:13

Angelenos! Angelenos! To where the second

10:16

it ended Oliver Turner

10:18

was and goes, essentially like, great time for all

10:20

of us. Angelenos! We couldn't, we

10:22

all couldn't wait to make fun of us. We

10:24

wanted the music to end so we could do

10:26

it. Or

10:29

we could have just went out during

10:31

the three song Richard, Keith Richards mini

10:33

concert in the middle. Yeah,

10:36

that's- That's one song too

10:38

many and I'm being conned. I'm

10:41

not the biggest- look, here's the thing. I'm not the-

10:43

I like the Rolling Stones. By no means

10:46

I'm the biggest Rolling Stones fan in the world. So

10:48

to a Rolling Stones fan, maybe they're like,

10:50

this is great. Keith is doing three songs,

10:52

we're happy for that. I don't know. I

10:56

can't imagine- it's one thing to

10:59

not be like the strongest vocalist,

11:01

but you can get away with

11:03

it if you're a great songwriter,

11:05

great musician, and maybe the vocals

11:07

are just a

11:10

small part of what you do and

11:12

what you're offering to the public. Like

11:15

Bob Dylan, you know, no one's gonna say he's the greatest singer

11:17

in the world, but he's got a style and it fits for

11:19

what he does. Keith

11:21

Richards has the misfortune of

11:23

following Mick Jagger every night.

11:26

Mick Jagger just fucking goes crazy for

11:28

an hour and then here's this dude

11:30

staring at a teleprompter, mumbling his way

11:33

through three songs. Not great. Not

11:35

great. Yeah, that's terrible. Not

11:37

great, Keith. And then

11:41

I mean no disrespect for these legends.

11:44

Those four new songs that we heard were a little rough. I

11:47

think- I actually don't know. There

11:49

was one early on that I didn't recognize so I was

11:51

like, oh maybe this is one of the new ones and

11:53

it's good, but if I look at the set list I'd

11:55

probably find out on that, that's just some song I didn't

11:57

know. I wonder which one that was. It was like the

11:59

second or third. third song? Well the

12:01

first new one they did was Angry and they

12:03

announced it. Right. So the one you're thinking of is... Yeah,

12:06

so then it wasn't that. Oh, what was

12:08

the second tune? Angry

12:10

wasn't terrible. It was okay. I

12:12

didn't say it was... I

12:14

just said not great. It wasn't great.

12:16

But like... But of the four we

12:18

heard, Angry was the best by far.

12:21

The one that Keith did, I don't

12:23

know how that made the album. Yeah.

12:27

But that said, they're 80. Yeah.

12:29

And if they're writing a new album at 80, great.

12:32

It's impressive on every level. It's impressive that

12:34

they're still touring, obviously. It's impressive that they

12:36

have the energy to do what they do

12:39

on stage. But it's also impressive that they

12:41

still have the passion and the interest and

12:43

the... You know, that they still want to get

12:46

together in a studio and write and record. Like

12:48

that's work, you know. That's not necessarily fun all

12:50

the time. You don't have to tell me. I

12:52

saw them pull it up into the studio. East-West.

12:57

And we thank our friend Ray over at... Yeah. Is it

12:59

Concerts West? Is that the name of it? Yes, I believe

13:01

so. And so we

13:03

got there. We were

13:05

very kindly invited to

13:07

a pre-show

13:10

reception. Yeah. And finally got

13:12

to meet Ray, who we've known over email

13:14

for years. And she's a delight. Absolutely.

13:17

And then we had some delicious

13:19

snacks. And then it was showtime. We

13:21

went down to our seats. You also

13:24

had to battle a six-foot-six man

13:26

who had one of those baby-carrying

13:29

backpacks on his back with no baby

13:31

in it. And he just...

13:34

He could not get out of

13:36

our way for some reason. He was constantly in

13:38

our way. I don't understand it. And it was

13:41

like at some point... Do

13:43

I have a rope attached to this guy? And I just can't...

13:46

And I'm being dragged by him? Everywhere I

13:48

went, it was like the tide. And

13:50

I just kept on getting sucked into his

13:52

way. It was bizarre. And it's very frustrating

13:54

that we never really got an answer. You

13:57

might think, all right, this guy... Oliver

14:00

made the joke, but I was like, this could be

14:02

true, that he was just wearing it as an accessory,

14:04

which is a very weird thing to do. But it's

14:06

a rock concert. People put weird things on to be

14:08

interesting. But he also had

14:11

a bottle of formula with it. So

14:13

it's clearly- So where there was a baby with it.

14:15

But where was that baby? And why is there a

14:17

baby at a Rolling Stones concert? Well, there should be,

14:19

because that was one of the loudest concerts I've ever

14:21

been to in my life. My

14:23

right ear is absolutely fucked right

14:25

now. It, oddly, when I

14:27

put my earplugs in, it made my

14:29

tinnitus worse. Oh, I didn't know you had them.

14:32

I was worried for you, because I didn't see you put them in. I was like,

14:34

shit, I don't- I had them in for a short period of time. And

14:36

all I heard was the ringing. So it's like, I'd

14:39

rather, and I know that that

14:41

is, every ear doctor will tell me,

14:43

you're an idiot. But

14:45

it was driving me nuts. Yeah, we

14:47

had the seats on the side. So the

14:50

speakers were hitting our right sides of our

14:52

faces more than the left. And so I'm

14:54

just off balance now, because my right ear

14:56

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14:58

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16:31

of the show, this is where we close the door, we

16:33

keep the riff raff out, or we just let them keep

16:35

walking back to steerage while we all enjoy the comfort

16:38

of first class. That's what this is, this is

16:40

the lounge. This is your admiral's

16:42

club, or the hobnob with

16:44

executives that wouldn't piss

16:46

on your feet if they

16:48

were cold. Wait, what was the, what's

16:51

the al-magical joke about

16:53

the, damn

16:56

it, watch out, magical specialist. His

16:59

dad says something offensive. I mean it seems like maybe your feet

17:01

would be on fire, they wouldn't piss on your

17:03

feet if they were on fire. There's a lot of rich

17:06

white people in those airline clubs.

17:09

Is this where we do the prevision

17:11

drop or? Do

17:13

we do it here? Just curious. Nah,

17:16

I don't know. Didn't merit it. No, I don't think, this is

17:18

just me rambling, this

17:20

isn't me forgetting anything. That's

17:22

the voice of our friend, Regan Burns, Regan's been

17:24

with us before, haven't seen him in a while, and

17:26

somehow since the last time we saw him, he's

17:29

gotten more handsome, which is infuriating. I

17:31

liked it better when you were kind of a sad

17:34

sack. Yeah, I liked that. I

17:37

liked that Regan Burns. You did? Yeah, I

17:39

was like, look at him, character actor, he's making the best

17:41

day again. Kind of the late 90s, early 2000s, showing

17:45

up as a panelist on bad VH1 shows, you

17:47

like that? Yeah, I did like that, this guy

17:49

don't like this guy. This guy's leading man material,

17:52

and you're not gonna get those roles and you

17:54

know that. That's true, but you know,

17:56

I talked to, I talked to my

17:58

dear close friend, Joe Pizzo. Piscopo. Yeah,

18:01

he says. Yeah, my political spiritual guy

18:03

as well. Sure. And he seemed

18:05

to really take the right track. He said, go this route. He

18:07

said, go this route. So I'm like, I gotta get in a

18:10

gym because I need to take my career

18:12

to that level. Piscopo level. I think

18:14

it's smarter than if you do start touring, do what

18:16

he does, insist on the club, getting him a set

18:18

of drums to be on stage so he can play

18:20

them for a total of two minutes. But

18:23

he insists on it. But he must have it. I must

18:25

have the drums. I went

18:27

down a Piscopo rabbit hole

18:29

actually recently. You know how a name

18:31

comes up and you're like, where the

18:33

hell is he and what he's been

18:35

doing? And immediately it came up with

18:37

a clip of him on Fox News.

18:40

He's deep into that trench. And

18:42

it was literally, he was

18:45

in his home, but everything behind

18:47

him was like every

18:50

emblem of red, white, and blue

18:52

in America, and MAGA hat, and

18:55

the whole thing. And

18:57

I guess he went to the Hush Money trial.

18:59

Like he showed up, he showed up, he saw

19:01

that. To support his good friend. Yeah,

19:04

to support his good friend. I remember every day

19:06

there would just be some gaggle of misfits showing

19:08

up. One day it was like five guys in

19:10

the same tie. Not

19:12

just the same tie, they were in

19:15

Donald Trump costume. But

19:17

they were like congressional leaders. Like there wasn't just

19:19

some random guys. It was,

19:21

what's his name? Mike Johnson. Yeah.

19:24

The speaker. It was him and

19:26

three other assholes. Probably Tim Scott, I believe. Robis Swamy,

19:28

am I getting that name right? Yeah, Vivek. Yeah, but

19:31

he's not a. But he was there too in the

19:33

cosplay. He was part of it. Oh

19:35

yeah. What I'm saying is these are not

19:37

just like fans. They're like actual leaders. These

19:39

are adults. Adults who should

19:41

not be cosplaying as a criminal. For

19:44

the asshole. For that particular. Yeah.

19:49

But that was okay. But yet when Jill

19:51

Biden showed up to Hunter Biden's trial,

19:54

that was intimidating the jury. Right.

19:57

Sure, sure it is. You mean his stepmom showing up,

19:59

that's the wrong move? Yeah, but you guys could show up in

20:01

your little costumes. No. Idiots. The

20:03

headline about him going to that trial.

20:05

Oh, here we go. Joe Piscopo shows

20:08

ultimate sign of respect by attending Trump's

20:10

trial. Oh, he does. That is the

20:12

ultimate. He sure does. Wow. That

20:15

guy, I guess he was funny when

20:17

he was with Eddie Murphy, right? He was funny.

20:19

Was he? Was he though? I'm asking. What is

20:22

the great, okay, Ebony and Ivory. Yeah, that's the

20:24

thing that we're looking for. And Sinatra. He did

20:26

a funny job. Did a good

20:28

Sinatra. He's funny in Johnny Dangerously. He

20:30

has the one line that completely comes. What's your

20:32

favorite line in that? Well, he keeps saying, if

20:35

someone said that to me once, only

20:37

once. That was like the runner for that in the

20:40

film. Yeah, but that

20:42

was it. Boy, when we

20:44

get to Johnny Dangerously is the third

20:46

greatest notch on your star resume. I

20:48

don't know. What

20:50

else were those characters on SNL? I'm

20:53

telling you, I don't know. I just was a kid and any

20:55

impression impressed me when I was a kid. I

20:58

didn't even know who Frank Sinatra was, but I

21:00

was like, hey, this is great. This guy's doing

21:02

it. Don't know if it's accurate. I like Phil

21:04

Hartman's better. Yeah, well, Phil Hartman had a funny

21:06

take rather than just being accurate, I guess. Because

21:08

Pisko was just up the Sinatra ass. Yeah, he

21:11

was trying to impress Frank Sinatra instead of make

21:13

fun of him, which is what you should be

21:15

doing. Give me a third character. Give me a

21:17

third, I couldn't tell you. Joe Piskapo staple. I

21:20

don't have one. Because you know Eddie Murphy's.

21:22

You know Will Ferrell's. I

21:25

go Frank Sinatra and Ebony and Iver. Well, Ebony and

21:27

Iver, he was Frank Sinatra, wasn't he? Yeah, it was,

21:29

that's true. So you got one. I

21:32

got him doing Frank by himself and with

21:34

Eddie. So Joe Piskapo. Yeah. What

21:37

do you, Gary, what do you got? Gary and Azura. Gary, top 15,

21:39

Joe Piskapo. So

21:42

SNL Wiki has

21:44

a list of his characters. Okay, what do you got? One

21:46

called Blair. No. One

21:48

called Doug Weiner. No,

21:50

no. Was that part of the Winers? That was the

21:53

thing. That was a family,

21:55

yeah. Yeah, the family. Wasn't that Rachel

21:57

Drax thing though? Oh, that was Debbie

21:59

Downer. Oh, much different than Weiner. Right

22:01

then, what'd you have with Bill Murray

22:03

and Gilda Redner? They were the, oh

22:05

yeah, what was that one? The, what

22:07

do you gave her, Nuggies? Yeah, the

22:09

Anana. I think they were just a brother

22:11

and sister team or something. All right, so

22:13

you got the Wine, okay. Oh, Blair was Dion's flamboyant

22:16

assistant and friend. That's

22:21

another Eddie Murphy character. Again. No.

22:23

Didn't we all kind of check out during that era

22:25

a little bit? Oh yeah. Unless Eddie was

22:28

on. Yeah, 100%. Most

22:30

of his characters, it seems like, are partnered with Eddie

22:32

Murphy. Yeah, they're all just him on Murphy's

22:34

coattails. Yeah, Pokey. Oh,

22:36

that's right. Oh, that's Gumby. With Gumby. Froggy.

22:39

Froggy, yeah. Who was with Buckwheat. Okay. And

22:42

then Harry Schleimer. Mr.

22:45

Blunt. Mm-mm. Mr. Wonderful. Mm-mm.

22:48

All three of those have no links to further information. Wow. Polly

22:52

Herman and Pudge. I

22:55

mean, can you name any other actor's

22:57

character from that era, really? Like,

23:00

that's the question. Like, the Eddie Murphy era. Well,

23:02

I got a million Tim Krasinski's. Of course. That

23:04

guy just. You all remember Brad Hall. Yeah, Brad

23:06

just rolled them off. No,

23:11

because it's kind of all checked out.

23:13

Yeah. Anthony Michael and Robert Downey would

23:15

come out and do some coked up bit every

23:17

once in a while on the news. That was

23:19

the year after, I think, right? That was that

23:21

crazy year that everybody left. No, no,

23:23

that was the first year. Well, sometimes there's religious bleed-over.

23:26

That was the first year of Piskapo and Eddie Murphy

23:28

were with them. Then they cut them loose, and then

23:30

Eddie Murphy and Piskapo stayed. Yeah, I think you're right.

23:32

I have a very skewed memory of it, because I

23:34

didn't watch it. I was too young to watch it

23:36

live when Eddie Murphy was actually on.

23:39

I just saw reruns with him, but then I

23:41

remember starting to watch it that year that John

23:43

Levitz joined. And I thought that was the year

23:45

that Anthony Michael Hall and Robert Downey joined. Okay.

23:48

No, no, Anthony Michael Hall, and

23:50

there was that Jean Dominion, or

23:52

whatever her name is. Dominion. Oh,

23:55

yeah. That era. Which was 80 to

23:57

84 or something. Yeah, but they

23:59

were only there one year. Yeah. Most underrated SNL

24:01

cast member ever. Who you, who you going to

24:03

throw out there? The most underrated, like

24:05

underrated on the show or like, cause that's the

24:08

thing. There's, there's so many people who didn't

24:11

do shit on the show, but then became huge,

24:13

like Ben Stiller and Julia Lutter. I would say

24:15

most underrated on the show. Like don't get like

24:17

they actually, I mean, I mean, it's obvious. Tony

24:19

Rosado, Tony. Rosado

24:22

came over from SNL where from SC TV, TV

24:24

and where he was like, I, and maybe he's

24:26

a nice man and maybe it's like, maybe when

24:28

he's in the room, you go, you know, who's

24:30

the funniest guy in the world? Tony Rosado. Yeah.

24:32

And it never carried over to screen for me.

24:35

They certainly, we got to pluck him and put him on SNL. He's

24:38

the one member. He and Robin Duke, they came over from

24:40

SC TV. Oh, Robin Duke. I remember Robin.

24:42

Then they threw her in feds. Wasn't she in

24:44

feds with Rebecca DeMornay? That was her big. I

24:46

will take your word for it. Yeah. They tried

24:49

to make her a movie person. So Robin Duke

24:51

or was that Nora Dunn? No, it

24:53

was Rob. I think it was Robin Duke. Robin Duke

24:55

ended up on Schitt's Creek as well. She

24:57

was the shop owner. Oh, right. Which I

24:59

liked that Eugene Levy was giving his friend

25:02

a role. I thought that was really cool

25:04

to see Robin Duke back working. But most

25:06

underrated. I mean, it started to define like,

25:08

what do you, because you have an answer.

25:10

You have a specific person in mind, Reagan?

25:13

Um, I don't know. Don't say it yet.

25:15

I'm just curious. Do you have somebody that

25:17

I do? I'm surprised that she never went

25:19

on to do more. Oh, yeah. Is

25:22

it, uh, Jan Hooks? Yeah, I'm really surprised. That's

25:24

what I was going to say to women. She

25:26

did. What am I going to say to Jan

25:28

Hooks? But she came into designing women. Didn't

25:30

she like in the latter? Like, wasn't she

25:32

an add-on to that? She replaced somebody. She

25:34

replaced somebody when the show was pretty much

25:36

on the way out. Like she was fantastic

25:39

and beautiful. She was the female Phil Hartman,

25:41

basically. Yeah, she was that good

25:43

and that versatile. I was just surprised she

25:45

never got like her Jan Hooks show. Yeah,

25:47

I agree. Her, her shot at

25:49

a big movie thing. Yeah, it'd be interesting to

25:51

know why. Was she not interested? She's

25:54

got the great scene in Peewee's Big Adventure

25:56

where she's giving a tour of the Alamo

25:58

and you know, Peewee's been told. that his

26:00

bike is in the basement. And

26:02

he's like, at the end of the story, he's like,

26:04

where's the basement? She's like, there's no basement in the

26:06

island. And they all laugh at him. It's heartbreaking. Is

26:08

this the Burns bump you were looking for, by the

26:11

way? I wanna talk 80s SNL.

26:13

80s SNL. I could talk about this all

26:16

day. It's one of my best funny favorite

26:18

things. It's the stuff we grew up on.

26:20

Before we get letters, Robin Duke was not

26:22

in Feds. She was in Schitt's Creek, though.

26:24

It was Mary Gross. Mary Gross. Mary Gross.

26:26

Oh, she's the most underrated. Just

26:29

because we couldn't remember her. That's the thing. The most

26:31

underrated is probably someone we have forgotten, but they were

26:33

really good. We just don't remember them. I

26:35

think Jan Hooks is a good pull. And again,

26:37

I think Mary Gross is one that somebody would say, you

26:39

know who's really funny? Mary Gross. Then you hang out, you

26:41

go to dinner with Mary Gross, and she makes you laugh

26:43

the whole time, but never

26:45

carried over. That's my positive way of

26:48

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26:50

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