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1:01

just sound like this to there. No one's

1:03

trying to be you. Live

1:05

your truth. But I really want to play

1:07

this clip from Tyler Henry, the medium. The

1:10

medium. Doing a read of Jerry

1:13

O'Connell. Oh my God. That's so real.

1:15

He went from doing readings to doing a read. It's

1:19

a read, sweetie. It's a read, sweetie. Here's

1:21

Tyler Henry, who is a scam artist.

1:24

No, stop. Telling Jerry O'Connell.

1:26

Say allegedly. Allegedly. You

1:29

don't have to say that. Here's Tyler Henry, who

1:31

is allegedly a total

1:33

fraud and scam artist. Reading.

1:36

Allegedly lies about every single fucking thing that

1:38

he says about these people. Here he is

1:40

reading the House Down Boots, Jerry O'Connell. This sounds

1:42

so left field, but any tragedies around

1:45

trains or any situations I'm hearing, choo,

1:48

choo, choo, choo, choo. I

1:51

sound like a lunatic, but it keeps coming good.

1:53

No, you're absolutely right. This is... Does that... Do

1:56

you want me to elaborate on this, or do you...

1:58

You know what the choo-choo thing is? I do. The

2:01

only way to describe it is this feeling of

2:03

this death. I hear choo choo and the feeling

2:05

of how do we move forward and family forever

2:08

changed, not being able to have the tools to

2:10

really bring closure to the situation. People

2:12

moving on with that person who passed that

2:14

way. There's just kind of a sense of

2:16

taking things down or not being able to

2:18

like... He always uses the same phrasing.

2:21

Like, such a liar. How

2:23

do I get a sense of family not being able to move

2:25

forward, changes being made? Closure, closure, closure.

2:27

The way that he speaks is so

2:29

unique though. I know you really don't like

2:32

him. I like him more than you. And

2:34

I also am like total fraud, but I

2:36

have a real fondness for him because I

2:38

do think that he, between the scribbling... I

2:40

think he's really created his own language of

2:42

this, which I find very charming, where he is

2:45

able to... It's even hard to do an

2:47

impression of because it's so unique, where

2:50

he's like, I'm getting a

2:53

sense of like, ah, woo, God,

2:55

can you let me know? Like

2:58

a woo, like a woo, God. Like a

3:00

woo, God, and like a, oh, low, low,

3:02

low, low. Was a grandfather,

3:04

a great grandfather

3:07

killed by a

3:09

giant coyote that was driving a

3:12

Model T, perhaps? I'm just, I'm feeling

3:14

kind of a heaviness, almost like a giant anvil

3:17

has fallen on my head. I

3:19

know that's so silly and like I might be off

3:21

track, but like it's because, you know, like John Edward

3:23

Ducell only be like, the name starts with J. Tyler

3:26

Henry is giving a full sequence

3:29

of events. He's giving sounds and

3:31

smells. They're doing different things. John

3:34

Edwards was doing the, what do

3:36

you call that? Cold reading? He

3:39

was fishing. Yeah. He was going, J, J, anyone

3:41

with a J? Anyone with an L? L, M, P, Q, R? Death

3:44

by anvil, death by piano, death by tongue.

3:46

What? Tyler is like

3:49

typing into google.com, Chrishell

3:52

Stow's tragedy. Yes. He's,

3:55

I do believe though, because I, I did

3:57

this when Tyler Henry show was on TV.

4:00

I would watch the clips and then I would google

4:02

to see how much was publicly available And

4:05

it wasn't always Publicly

4:07

available often it was but with Jerry

4:09

O'Connell's Grandfather's brother who was killed by

4:12

a train and apparently that created some

4:14

sort of horrendous generational trauma that exists

4:16

through this day choo-choo

4:18

choo-choo Oh my

4:20

gosh, I could not find any

4:22

stories about the choo-choo killing it

4:24

But that doesn't mean anything that

4:26

just means that Tyler Henry has

4:28

a really really dedicated research team

4:31

They're going to libraries. Okay, however, he

4:33

did it getting Tyler Henry to say

4:35

choo-choo Does that mean anything to you and then it does

4:37

and then Jericho I was like, oh

4:39

my god My grandfather's brother was hit by a

4:41

train a terrible train accident that changed the nature

4:43

of our family I mean that is and you

4:45

know Jerry O'Connell's

4:48

grandfather was the mayor

4:50

of Jersey

4:52

City, how'd you did you find this

4:54

out? That's on Wikipedia Oh,

4:56

so he's a prominent up the rest a

4:58

prominent person Yeah, so you can just go

5:00

into the archives and like Jersey City and

5:02

find out that his brother died I

5:05

found his brother's grave site. Okay, he died in

5:07

his 30s. You don't need to do the research

5:09

Tyler already did it he's I just

5:12

want to know how much is just there for the

5:14

taking no cell on my body Believes that he's speaking

5:16

to a ghost. I'm just like I need to know

5:18

how you're doing this What if I told you I

5:20

believed it? I think we'd have to have a long

5:22

conversation off Mike Lindsay Have

5:26

a long conversation off Mike

5:29

What if I was fully on board and believing everything? That

5:33

you're not listen, I just think his

5:35

flourish and his con artistry is Talent

5:38

and that's more what I'm kind of like looking

5:40

at tragedies around trains or any

5:43

situations. I'm hearing choo-choo My

5:45

gosh I

5:47

sound like a lunatic, but no you're absolutely right

5:50

This is you're listening to who's there with the

5:52

call and show we take your questions comments and

5:54

concerns at 619 who them Let's

5:56

start with some comments. Oh my god

5:58

the number of people who called about Survivor, I was

6:01

like, well we gotta play one of them. Hey

6:04

Lindsay Bobby Timmy, I

6:06

am of course calling

6:08

about the new

6:10

It couple, Amanda Probst, and Austin

6:12

Lee Coon. I just

6:15

wanted to give some more context

6:17

for the statement from them

6:20

that you guys read. When he

6:22

says, I'm sure this

6:24

is a surprise given how season 45 ended,

6:28

that is because that season

6:31

ended with Austin coming in

6:33

second to D. Valladares, who

6:35

he was in a pretty

6:37

steamy and adorable showmance with.

6:39

The two of them were a

6:41

really dominant duo in a very

6:44

strong alliance of four, and

6:46

I think many

6:48

would agree that Bull on

6:51

the jury chose D over

6:53

Austin because he really

6:55

didn't have any secrets from D, but

6:57

she made a few strong moves without

6:59

including him that he wasn't even aware

7:01

of until the very last moment. It

7:03

was a very dramatic reveal that she

7:05

made. They really gave the

7:08

sense that they were really into each other

7:10

on the island and it was really cute,

7:12

but as soon as the season aired, in

7:14

all their exit press they were being pretty vague

7:17

about they were still together and it was kind of

7:19

just giving we don't live in the

7:21

same state and we respect our

7:23

privacy with their vibes, but D

7:25

is really cool. All the gay

7:27

guys that I watch Survivor with would agree she's one

7:29

of the strongest, most well-rounded

7:31

players and winners of the new era.

7:35

Mostly I wanted to say I feel like Austin,

7:37

as someone who was in

7:39

a pretty popular showmance who came

7:41

in second and is also hot,

7:46

I feel like he had a really good shot

7:48

at playing again.

7:50

Season 50 is going to

7:52

be all returning players, but

7:55

I feel like dating Amanda Probst

7:58

probably disqualifies him. interesting

8:00

if he is willing to

8:03

sacrifice another shot at a million dollars. He

8:06

must really care about

8:08

her and that's really cute. But anyway,

8:10

showing whole Leanne Cuisine. That last bit

8:12

was not mentioned by a lot of

8:14

the callers and I think it's one

8:17

of the more important aspects of this,

8:19

which is that like I was like trolling some survivor

8:22

message boards and Reddit's and

8:25

people were talking about Dee in Austin and like they

8:27

had this showmance and then he's

8:29

dating the niece now or whatever. A lot

8:31

of people are like, oh he's trying hard to get

8:34

on survivor 50. He's trying hard to get on survivor

8:36

50. Now he's guaranteed to be on survivor 50, but

8:39

this caller is like this may in

8:41

fact disqualify him because he's dating the

8:43

host's niece. It's true. So he's not

8:45

trying that hard. So he's not trying that hard. He just wants

8:47

love over money. Anyways, I'm watching this

8:49

season. I mean I am. I

8:51

haven't watched yet, but I am watching this season. I'm

8:53

getting involved. It's time for me to

8:56

get involved. It's time for me to get involved. I'm

8:58

stepping up. Okay,

9:00

next call about a television

9:02

show. A long-running television show.

9:04

Hi, Bobby. Long time, long

9:06

time. Sorry, I'm walking. I

9:09

don't know that there's like a... I don't

9:11

even know if you care about this. I

9:13

don't know if there's scientific answers here about

9:15

leaving SNL early, but as an SNL megastan,

9:18

I do think that three seasons

9:20

is the dividing line. Like I

9:22

think if you save for four or more

9:24

seasons, it's not considered early and there is

9:26

a reason. And that's because the

9:28

first two seasons you're there, you're a

9:30

secret player and then on your third

9:33

season you're generally upgraded to a repertory

9:35

player. So only being a repertory player

9:37

for one season would be kind of

9:39

considered an early exit. You have to

9:41

put in your time to get promoted to the main

9:43

cast. But again, this

9:45

is not a science. This is not a theory. Okay,

9:47

Cribs friends, love you, bye. I love a theory like

9:49

this just because like I

9:52

love an opinion that's so fun

9:54

to me. So this person is

9:56

like I'm an SNL superfan and the

9:59

reason why leaving... being early after

10:01

one year is so kind of, it's

10:05

a break in the make or break, it's

10:08

because you leave as a day player versus

10:11

being a repertory, I forget what she

10:13

used, there's technology, but you don't get

10:16

like bumped up to being main

10:18

cast. So like you kind of do leave

10:21

with a blip. My thing is

10:23

like, in my mind, SNL

10:25

doesn't make you famous if you leave

10:27

early, it's just that their casting is

10:29

really good, so therefore they catch people

10:31

who were already on their way up.

10:34

So like in the case of, let's say,

10:36

Jenny Slate, where it's like she left after

10:39

one season, I don't think like SNL probably

10:41

helped, but I think she would have gotten

10:43

there no matter what, because of their, and

10:45

the way that they found her was because

10:47

she was already in that trajectory. So it's

10:49

hard to say whether somebody who's

10:52

been on one season of SNL and then gets big,

10:54

it's because of SNL, because it's just like, it's

10:58

not a fair scientific assessment. There's just, it's

11:00

not, you know what I mean? Because

11:03

then you have people who like almost made it

11:05

there, like I think about Tim Robinson too, sorry,

11:08

where it's like Tim Robinson was a

11:10

huge flop on SNL, but now he's

11:13

making moves all over Hollywood, you know? A

11:15

huge slay, right? Netflix, HBO, like independent

11:18

film, like it's all happening for Tim Robinson,

11:20

but it took a while, you know? Post

11:22

SNL, it took a while. Well, it wasn't

11:24

like the right fit for him or whatever,

11:26

but yeah, I mean, I just think like

11:28

there's, it's hard to say like, you

11:32

need to be there for three years to make any

11:34

sort of impact. I totally get that. Or

11:37

totally, but the right amount of fame. You still

11:39

might not make an impact, but yeah, totally, totally,

11:41

yeah. Let's move on

11:43

to normal questions. Hey

11:46

BLT, long time, long time. I have

11:48

an Emmys question for you. So

11:50

I was thinking about it, and really

11:53

my question is, can

11:55

winning an Emmy make

11:57

you a them anymore? I feel

11:59

like it... It did at one point, but especially

12:01

with streaming and just the amount of television there

12:03

is out there, it seems

12:06

to me like you're either already a them

12:08

and winning an Emmy might increase

12:10

your prestige, but it doesn't move you from

12:12

who to them or you're a who and

12:14

you win an Emmy and you're a them

12:17

to people who watch your show, but you're

12:19

still a who more broadly. So

12:22

is this no longer a

12:26

path to graduation? Was it ever a

12:28

path to graduation? We'd love

12:30

to hear your thoughts. Crunch crunch. No,

12:33

winning an Emmy doesn't make you a them anymore. Uh-huh.

12:35

Did it ever? Well, I was

12:37

looking through the history of the Emmys, obviously, and

12:39

then I was thinking about how television is fractured

12:42

over the many, many decades of the Emmy's history

12:44

where it's like, whatever. And

12:46

I think that back in the day, typically, if

12:48

you won an Emmy, you were already a them.

12:51

Because there were like three TV shows. There were

12:53

four shows that were all Seinfeld. Right. So

12:55

it's like, but no, I'm thinking about like the sixties and the

12:57

seventies too, but there just wasn't much. Right.

13:00

That's a very good point. Like the TV landscape

13:02

wasn't so varied. So it's like, it wasn't like

13:04

you got to watch a beef. Like it was

13:06

just like, we're all watching Seinfeld. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

13:08

But the other thing is like, if

13:10

you win an Emmy these days and let's say

13:12

you're a them now, let's look at, I'm just

13:15

thinking top of mind, Jeremy Allen white. He

13:19

didn't need the Emmy to become a them. That

13:21

show was already really, really popular

13:24

and broke through the sort

13:26

of like the, the

13:28

noise of streaming and the noise of television

13:30

and already made an impact. Oh, are you

13:32

watching the bear? It's vindicating, I guess, but

13:34

I think it has nothing to do with

13:36

them dumb or them status or achieving. Certainly

13:38

getting nominated for an Emmy does not them

13:40

you at all. Even close. That

13:43

doesn't matter. We'll talk about these,

13:45

um, some of these people like, um,

13:47

not, you know, to the audience one,

13:49

right? Like, we'll talk about these people

13:51

from, um, some of these specials

13:55

and TV shows. And it's just like, I

13:57

don't know that they are them just because they want.

14:01

because these shows are still relatively small.

14:04

Right, well it's also like some

14:07

of them are not even the star of the show

14:09

or not even the show's not even something that is

14:11

like on a streamer that is popular. You know, it's

14:13

like there's so many elements of, I

14:16

don't know where to watch this or a

14:18

lot of people are not watching this. It's

14:21

just like loved by critics. I think that's

14:23

the main thing where now it's like the

14:25

critical and the popular are so far separated

14:27

versus it was always that case. Now even

14:29

more so because of the nature of streaming

14:32

and how it's so siloed. Like now

14:34

like you hear about shows that critics love and you're

14:36

like where the fuck am I supposed to watch that?

14:38

And he's on like Showtime and that I can only

14:40

get if by a sub screen. You know, it's not

14:43

just something that's added onto my cable package. I have

14:45

to go like find it or it's like on Roku

14:47

or it's you know, that's it's not crazy

14:50

for these shows to kind of come out

14:52

of the left field and be like critical

14:54

darlings and maybe they'll get on Netflix in

14:56

like three seasons. But like that's the issue

14:58

is it takes it takes a while for

15:01

sometimes a random thing to like come to the mainstream.

15:03

Like how Schitt's Creek worked, you know, like Schitt's Creek,

15:05

no one heard of it for its entire run. And

15:07

then it's last season was like on Netflix. Somebody was

15:09

like, oh my God. Oh my

15:11

God. So I don't know. Like

15:14

I think it has to do with those two

15:16

things. Meanwhile, winning an Emmy for your career as

15:18

an actor is huge. Maybe doesn't

15:20

make you a them, but it makes you a

15:23

them to every single person in that industry because

15:25

I do think that it's like in

15:27

Hollywood, your job is to know who's won an Emmy. Oh,

15:30

for sure. And you become an industry them. Absolutely.

15:33

Your number one concern is to be, you know,

15:35

Matt Bellamy and like know like the freaking football

15:37

stats of all these people, like the RBI is

15:39

like you got to know what they've won and

15:41

when they won and what they want it for.

15:43

So I think that to that, like to get

15:45

you in the room with people changes your life.

15:47

Yeah. Changes your life. I

15:49

think actually my parents watched Shogun so they will know

15:51

who these people are. But let's go back one year.

15:53

Like when Sarah snook won the Emmy for succession last

15:55

year, I don't think my parents were something like, Oh,

15:58

who's this Sarah snook woman? and we keep hearing

16:00

about like, no, that didn't happen. But it did

16:03

happen with her being on succession. But also, here,

16:05

Yuki Sonata was already very famous. Jean Smart,

16:07

already famous. Jeremy Ellen White, already

16:09

famous. Sure, sure. You

16:12

get what we're saying, come on. If

16:14

you do an interesting speech, if you have an

16:17

interesting moment, if you, and you know,

16:19

like, we're gonna get to Alex Edelman, but

16:21

like, if Alex Edelman had like this kind

16:23

of like interesting moment up there, like that

16:25

can make a difference. Cause like, you're getting

16:27

the screen time of television. Your award is

16:29

being presented on live TV. So like, you

16:32

do have that. We'll get there. Wait,

16:34

let's play the first. We'll play the first,

16:36

I like this one. Hi here

16:38

weekly. I'm sure you're getting

16:40

a ton of Emmy's calls, but

16:43

I'm just calling to say that

16:45

I'm obsessed with Lorraine

16:48

Newman's absolute hatred for

16:50

the bear. And I

16:53

think I might agree with her. Anyways,

16:56

crunch crunch. First of all, do people

16:58

know that Lorraine Newman, who is an

17:00

SNL cast member in the eight seventies,

17:02

eighties, early. She's in the original

17:05

SNL cast. That's why I'm to be in here.

17:07

She is a character in the new movie. Oh,

17:09

she is. She's played by Emily Farn. Oh my

17:11

God. That's so funny. Emily Fairn, who plays Lorraine

17:13

Newman in the new right man, Saturday night

17:15

movie plays the Michelle

17:17

Williams character in Brokeback Mountain. And

17:19

Michelle Williams, iconically says, Jack twist,

17:21

Jack nasty. You don't go up

17:23

there to fish. So she plays

17:25

that role. Twist.

17:31

Jack nasty. Jack nasty. Okay. Shout

17:34

out to Emily Farn. Good for

17:36

you. Lorraine Newman, again, comedian. She

17:38

is the mother of, drum roll

17:41

please, Hannah Einbinder. So

17:43

Hannah Einbinder, we've talked about giving, it's giving

17:45

an Eppow baby. We've talked about

17:47

this before. I think she's like broken free of that

17:49

a little bit because people don't seem to really know

17:51

or put that upon her. Well, here's the issue. What's

17:53

the antidote to being called an Eppow baby? People have

17:55

to like the shit that you're in and people like

17:57

Hacks. They like it. People like Hacks, they think she's

17:59

good. et cetera, et cetera. So

18:01

when the bear beat her, when

18:04

she didn't win, she's now been

18:06

nominated what, two years in a row and hasn't won, three years in a

18:08

row? Two years in a row, maybe. Who

18:10

deserved it? Because the actress from the bear wasn't the only

18:13

good episode of the bear this season. Sorry, don't talk about that.

18:15

I just, it was like they did a, what

18:18

do you call it, bottle episode? Liza Colonzias. Okay,

18:20

everyone was talking about her. So she was

18:22

nominated with her Carol Burnett, Hannah Einbinder, Janelle

18:24

James, Cheryl Lee Ralph and Meryl Streep. What

18:27

is Carol Burnett being nominated for? We

18:29

love Carol Burnett. Paul Royale. The show that cost

18:31

$100 million on Apple TV. One.

18:35

That is like. Watched. Crazy. So

18:38

Lorraine Newman tweets as Emmys are alive,

18:40

she tweets, fuck the bear, deletes it.

18:43

And then she tweets, I think the bear is a

18:45

great show, but in my honest opinion, it's not a

18:47

comedy. Not even a dark comedy. And

18:49

this is not the first time she's tweeted

18:52

about this. Every time I think about the bear being

18:54

in the comedy category for the Emmys, I can feel

18:56

an ulcer developing. So obviously there's two reasons. One, you

18:58

think of this woman as a comedian. Two, you think

19:00

of her daughter losing an Emmy two years in a

19:02

row. Three, I get the sensitivity on the bear not

19:05

being a comedy thing, because not just

19:07

like, oh, is the bear a comedy?

19:09

Well, it's not funny. That's basic. What it is is

19:11

that Hacks is a comedy and it's about comedy. And

19:13

I think that makes it even more, I

19:16

think that's what I think gets people more riled

19:18

up because it's like. It's literally about comedy.

19:20

It's like if 30 Rock was competing against,

19:22

what's another show that's like The Sopranos?

19:25

And people were like, The

19:27

Sopranos is actually funny in so many ways, which is true. The

19:29

Sopranos is funny. The Sopranos can be funny. But

19:32

if it was going up against 30 Rock, I would

19:34

be like, that's not even fair. Because

19:36

the 30 Rock is like pumping out the

19:38

jokes. It's like a joke a second. It's

19:40

like a totally different format. So like, I

19:42

do feel like they're not in the same

19:44

category. These shows are probably more closer in,

19:47

these are probably more closer connected because the

19:49

Hacks while being a comedy is also kind of

19:51

dramatic. There are dramatic moments. There's dramatic acting, whatever.

19:54

And the bear has funny moments, funny characters, also

19:56

dramatic acting, whatever. I mean, personal opinion.

19:58

Also, it's just like. to me,

20:00

so fucking funny. Like, it's just so

20:02

funny. It's so

20:05

funny. So people kind of got mad because they were like, can

20:07

you like get your mom to stop, like tell your mom to

20:09

stop tweeting, but also she's a comedian, so I'm kind of

20:11

like- She's a comedian. She's old, it doesn't matter.

20:13

It's funny. Yeah, like, it's funny. And

20:15

also she's old and I'm just like, let

20:18

her live. But the worst thing

20:20

is that now it's like journalists are

20:22

going around asking actors. I believe- Is it

20:24

better comedy? Is it better comedy? The like

20:26

TikTok video that the LA Times released of

20:28

their journalist walking down the red carpet, asking

20:30

everyone, is the bear a comedy? What do

20:33

you think about the bear being a comedy?

20:35

And they're asking like the cast of hacks.

20:37

I was like, this is so cruel. It's

20:40

so shady. I would never think about it. And then

20:42

the only people who said the right thing were like

20:44

Josh Jackson. And I was like, yeah, he's not on

20:47

the show. He doesn't have a dog in this fight.

20:49

What was he in, fatal attraction? He doesn't give a

20:51

shit. Yes, it is played straight by the

20:53

actors, but the scenarios are absurd or

20:55

heightened and geared towards calling out

20:57

the absurdity of the situation, which to me is

20:59

a comedy, as opposed to playing into the pathos

21:01

of a situation, which is then a drama. His

21:03

shows are hilarious. He's about to be in Doctor Odyssey. He's

21:06

about to be a doctor on a boat.

21:08

That's directed by Ryan Murphy. Doctor,

21:16

welcome aboard the Odyssey. Whoa, in

21:18

the ice. This

21:21

ship is heaven. Do it

21:23

together. Our mission is

21:25

to preserve the dream. And

21:29

that's why you're here. I'm in. Keep

21:35

these dreamers safe. Oh my, I cannot

21:37

wait for that show. People are now just like normal

21:39

people. Like our friends are now like discovering that that

21:42

show is happening. Like especially during the Emmys when they

21:44

were playing the ads for it. People were like, what

21:46

is this, Sean? I was like, welcome. You don't

21:48

know about Doctor Odyssey? I was like, welcome. You

21:50

don't know about Doctor Odyssey? Don

21:54

Johnson's there. You're like, Josh Jackson

21:56

is literally gonna like, cure a

21:58

man's like, scene. sickness like scurvy

22:01

Josh I'm like you have scurvy I bet

22:03

the first episode someone gets scurvy or something

22:05

all sorts of things can happen on a

22:07

cruise ship literally everything you could fall you

22:09

could hit your head you could go overboard

22:12

you could I around to diarrhea it's everything

22:14

it's literally everything but what if you're such

22:16

a reaction oh you're gonna you're gonna get

22:19

involved in so many weird funny little miscommunications

22:22

and mishaps oh it's gonna be great someone on

22:24

reddit wrote this won't be popular based on the

22:26

comments but Joshua Jackson's response that everyone is crazy

22:28

is just been painting the comedy definition with the

22:31

daily broad brush to encompass the bear and I'm

22:33

just like I felt the same way I'm like

22:35

he was eloquent he was articulate yeah but like

22:37

he wasn't really saying anything which is an actor's

22:42

gonna say it's not a cop no one on

22:44

my carpet is gonna be like I don't support

22:46

the people that are not if that's just bad

22:48

form you gotta be tweeting from home you're not

22:50

gonna be on the carpet being a bitch so

22:52

it's like and I still haven't seen the bear

22:54

so I don't know you'll never know one day you

22:59

will watch the bear and you'll be like damn it's good

23:01

but it'll be like in 30 years you'll

23:03

you'll have no one to talk about because we all

23:05

will have forgotten the show god

23:07

what is that oh it's an episode of

23:09

the Simpsons the itchy and scratchy movie comes

23:12

out and Homer doesn't let Bart see it

23:14

and he bans him from seeing the itchy

23:16

and scratchy movie and the episode ends with

23:18

them like old and he takes

23:20

his dad to go see the itchy and

23:22

scratchy like retrospective like 50 years later and

23:24

it's very sweet and I'm just like that's gonna be

23:27

me watching the bear me and you going

23:29

into the night hawk and being like now's the

23:31

time they're showing season

23:33

one and one go my

23:37

last words are gonna be that fucking sucked and then

23:39

I'm just gonna fly no I think

23:41

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23:43

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Lindsay Bobby and Timmy longtime longtime

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who is Alex Edelman he

27:42

is halfway to an e thought I figure

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we got a note about him crunch crunch me

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at home oh and

27:49

the Emmy goes to Alex

27:54

Edelman This

28:01

is the first Emmy win and

28:03

nomination for Alex Edelman. You must do

28:05

my own thing, Andrew! Whoo!

28:18

Okay, hi, Steve. Um,

28:21

okay, um, thank

28:23

you so much for this. Uh, this is...oh, God,

28:25

you're crying in front of Carol Burnett. Fantastic. All

28:28

right. What's cool about these

28:30

variety specials is that it now includes

28:32

stand-up comedy and theater stuff that's transferred.

28:35

And now that stand-up comedy that is now kind

28:37

of like storytelling, Mike Prabiglia style, The Moth style

28:39

is now more popular. A lot of these shows

28:41

are like either going to Broadway or going to

28:43

Broadway and getting like picked up

28:45

as specials, and then they get nominated for

28:48

Emmys because they're technically on television, like, televised

28:50

or whatever. That rocks. Like, in

28:52

this category, you literally had Alex

28:54

Edelman with Just For Us. You had Jacqueline Novak,

28:56

which was one of the best shows I've seen

28:59

in a long time. And you had John Early,

29:01

whose show also fucking rocked, was on HBO. And

29:03

Declan's was on Netflix. So it's like, that's

29:05

really cool. Like, that, to me, is awesome.

29:07

I mean, who is Alex Edelman? That's what's kind

29:10

of crazy. He's just like a comedian guy. He's

29:12

Hannah Einbinder's ex. That's also

29:14

crazy. He's Lorraine Newman's daughter's ex. He

29:17

literally dated Hannah Einbinder for a long

29:19

time. And if you're wondering, I thought

29:21

she was queer. She is. Yeah,

29:23

she's queer. You could be queer and date Alex Edelman,

29:25

please. You definitely can't. You

29:27

definitely can't. You could be queer and date

29:29

Alex Edelman, I'm sorry. This show was good. I liked

29:31

his show. I have a high bar to,

29:34

like, watch comedy specials. Like, I really need to be locked in,

29:36

and I need to be a fan of the person. I

29:38

saw it off Broadway. I saw it live. I think that's,

29:40

for me, the kind of, you know, the big

29:42

bit. Because I liked, I already, well, you had pressed

29:44

me on Jacqueline Novak for so long, and I was

29:46

familiar with her, and I like her. Love that. It's

29:49

giving kind of like, what's their face? Hannah

29:51

Gatsby. Where's Hannah Gatsby? Where are

29:53

you? Where is Hannah Gatsby? We haven't

29:55

heard from Hannah Gatsby in a while. Remember when the

29:57

name on everybody's lips was Hannah Gatsby? Truly. on

30:00

everybody's lips was Hannah Gatsby.

30:03

I'm sorry, I just went to Hannah Gatsby's, hold

30:06

on, I went to their Instagram. They're

30:08

doing stuff, aren't they? No, their username

30:10

is Hannah underscore Gatsby. Sure.

30:13

And then the bio says, Dr. Hannah Gatsby,

30:15

where have I been? Okay, so

30:17

they got their literal medical degree while we

30:19

were like, where's Hannah Gatsby? Doctor of what?

30:22

Why did they get a doctor in it? I mean, whatever, if

30:24

I had an honorary doctorate, I'd ask everyone to call me doctor.

30:26

So I allow you to do this Hannah

30:28

Gatsby. So there really is nothing else to know

30:30

about Alex Edelman. It's funny, because a lot of

30:32

the things I know about him are from the

30:34

special, like from the show. So it's like, if

30:37

you watched it, you learn, his brother is a

30:39

bobsled Olympian. If you watch it, you learn, you

30:41

know, he's from Boston. Like those are

30:43

the things, you learn all these things about him.

30:45

One time I saw him at a party. Like

30:47

there's nothing else to know, it's kind of boring.

30:50

Me leaving Alex Edelman on

30:52

Broadway. Wow, I can't believe he's from

30:54

Boston. Can

30:57

you believe he's from Boston? He's

30:59

from Boston, and I saw him at a party. Who

31:02

is Nava Mal? That

31:04

might not be how you say her name,

31:06

but I don't know. But

31:09

who is that? Please tell me. Aviat

31:13

Yungen, hi-hi. You watched

31:15

Baby Reindeer, right? I did, yeah, I did, I did.

31:18

And so Nava Mal is the- She's

31:20

good in it. She's dating Baby

31:23

Reindeer. Wait, in the show? While he's

31:25

getting stalked, yeah, in the show. In the show,

31:27

he- Because this is a show I kind of

31:29

can't bring myself to watch. It's hard to watch.

31:31

The show he's getting stalked, that is a very,

31:34

but part of it is his own identity

31:36

because he also experienced

31:38

sexual assault, so he's also kind of figuring

31:40

out how he exists in the world and

31:42

what his sexual expression is

31:44

and whatever. And so it's like he's dating

31:46

a trans woman, and a lot of it

31:49

is his shame, his own shame, and reflecting

31:51

it on her, essentially. And she's like, I don't have

31:53

shame. I am not letting you- Why are you making

31:55

me feel uncomfortable? Totally. So I feel like a

31:57

lot of people talk about this show and they just talk about the

31:59

stock. aspect. And yes, that actress is really good. And

32:01

she did win an Emmy, the woman who played the

32:03

stalker. She was very good. But like, the

32:06

there's like, there's like B plots that

32:08

are also kind of like compelling and

32:10

interesting and different. And it's like, that's

32:13

usually not the conversation. So I'm glad that she

32:15

was nominated because it did make it did make

32:17

her character like, more important on

32:19

the show kind of in retrospect. Well, I'm

32:22

glad that you said that because I was feeling

32:24

the same thing. Because I was

32:26

like, wait, I thought this whole thing

32:28

was about a scary stalker. And like, it's a level

32:30

of darkness I didn't want to watch. And

32:33

I didn't know that there was like all this other

32:35

shit going on. And like, I didn't

32:37

know about the novel Mal character. And I was like, okay,

32:39

maybe I will watch baby reindeer. Yeah, I watched it because

32:41

I really wanted to see and I'm not seeing it. I

32:43

don't know where how to see it. But I want to

32:46

see his his one man show that what inspired it because

32:48

like, this was another kind of God

32:50

what's her face freaking jumpsuit lady. Wait,

32:53

what? Fleabag,

32:56

what's her name again? Oh, Phoebe Waller

32:58

bridges. Okay. In my mind, it's

33:00

like that jumpsuit. Okay. Yeah. That

33:02

show that I that her show that

33:04

inspired inspired Fleabag. I got

33:07

the chance to see live

33:09

like, randomly was very

33:11

lucky and like, or the show show. Yeah.

33:14

And like, loved the kind

33:16

of seeing the like adaptation of the show into a show.

33:18

So it's like, okay, cool. I want to like watch this

33:20

because I want to go back and like see a show

33:22

and like see how they did it and like what what

33:24

came from where and like how because that the

33:27

TV shows are good. But the but kind of

33:29

the one man aspect of telling a story that

33:31

is so rich and good that it ends up

33:33

being able to be made into a show is

33:35

so much more to me like impressive.

33:38

I've also never watched Fleabag. You know

33:40

this. It's fine. Let's just like, let's

33:43

just not that to me is like

33:45

even crazier than the bear. Like Fleabag rocks.

33:47

My TV consumption has been so wonky my

33:49

whole life, but especially lately. Like I know

33:51

I watched all of a perfect couple of

33:54

over two days. I was sick, but the

33:56

dumbest shit I've ever seen in my entire

33:58

fucking life. And I watched six episodes. Do

34:00

you wanna know who did it? No, actually I'm gonna make it a Patreon

34:02

thing tomorrow. I actually have a game plan. Okay, let's talk about it tomorrow. Cause

34:04

I do know who did it cause I watched one episode, said I will not be

34:07

watching this and I looked it up. So fucking funny. So

34:09

fucking stupid. Okay. So okay, but I'm

34:12

saying Fleabag is so good. Nava Mal

34:14

was nominated alongside Jessica Gunning, also from

34:16

Baby Reindeer. She won. Then Dakota Fanning

34:18

was there. His speech was so

34:20

good cause he was like, it's so crazy

34:22

that this show like even got here. And

34:24

it's like, that's true. It is crazy, considering.

34:26

They are all so random. The show

34:29

is random. Like Nava Mal, her biggest

34:31

thing before this was being

34:33

on Generation, which was that HBO flop.

34:36

I know, it really was. I wanted to

34:38

like that. But she's like not a them

34:40

by any means. So she's like working her

34:42

way through the industry and

34:44

is acting and stuff. She's producing and

34:47

stuff. She's like doing like production assistance

34:49

on stuff. Well,

34:51

what's cool is that she was a production fellow on

34:53

Disclosure, which was that big documentary about

34:55

trans people being more in media. And

34:58

she's from San Antonio, which I love. Has

35:00

sort of been like chugging along in

35:04

Hollywood for over a decade.

35:07

I was crying when I was reading this profile

35:09

of her in Elle cause it was like

35:11

after completing work on a few short films,

35:13

Mal was couch surfing in Los Angeles when

35:15

she received a suspicious DM on Instagram from

35:17

a random account offering her an audition. The

35:19

message included a typo. So she figured it

35:22

was spam, but like many hungry actresses, she

35:24

was eager enough for a lead that she

35:26

sent over her email address and

35:28

as it turns out the message was more than

35:30

legitimate. It was an offer to audition for the

35:32

HBO Maxo Generation. And I was like, that says

35:34

a lot about Generation and why that show didn't

35:37

last as long as it did. Who

35:39

was the creator? I felt like that that show I

35:41

got really excited about and then it was bad and I

35:43

was so upset. It was

35:45

the Nepo show member, father, daughter,

35:47

duo, Zelda and Daniel. Yes, Zelda

35:50

Barnes and Daniel Barnes. Oh,

35:52

it wasn't Justice Smith in it. And we were

35:54

like, we stand Justice Smith cause of Detective Pikachu.

35:57

Daniel Barnes was like a show runner or like a

35:59

TV writer. directed that movie Cake with Jennifer Amiston, which

36:01

people thought would give her Oscar, but

36:03

then everyone was like, what are you talking about this movie, Seth? She was like,

36:05

I'm ugly. Yeah. Generation

36:08

comes out. He co-created it

36:11

with his daughter. Do you remember this? We

36:13

talked about this in 2021. No, truly. Because

36:15

people did think this was gonna be a thing. And also this was like post-Euphoria. This

36:19

was like a euphoria. And they brought up, it was like they

36:21

were trying to do a new euphoria because

36:23

they brought in Martha Plimpton. They always are. They

36:26

had Timmy's Fave, Chase, Sweet Wonders was there. Of

36:29

course. But Nava Mal was one of

36:31

the leads of the show, along with

36:34

Justice Smith. To go back to the conversation that we

36:36

started with, which was does winning an Emmy make you

36:38

a them? No. No.

36:41

But obviously what it does is make Nava Mal a

36:43

them to everyone in the fucking- Gets you cast in

36:45

the new season. Just the nomination. And she didn't win.

36:47

Of you, one episode of the new season of you.

36:49

No, I think obviously she was in

36:52

this episode before she won this Emmy, but she taped

36:54

it. And now that I know that she's in

36:56

it, I'm actually intrigued to watch Baby Reindeer. So, yay.

36:59

They'll never watch Fleabag

37:02

or the bear, but you will watch Baby Reindeer. I- Whatever.

37:05

Let's just move on. Hi, Who

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Puth is married. A

37:18

few questions here. Is Charlie

37:20

Puth, who

37:22

are them? I saw the pictures and

37:25

I didn't even know that that's what he looked like.

37:28

I'm thinking who. And then

37:30

second question, who's his wife? Is

37:33

she anyone of note? Hey,

37:37

love you guys. Bye. Listen, we've

37:39

talked about Charlie Puth's new

37:42

wife, Brooke Sansom, AKA Brooke Puth.

37:45

Say- I can't believe she's Brooke

37:47

Puth now. Brooke Puth. There's something kind

37:49

of, the way that we're so used

37:51

to Charlie Puth's name being Charlie Puth,

37:53

that a new person's name being Puth,

37:56

it reminds you of how crazy

37:58

his name is. Brooke Puth. Brooke

38:01

Puth, Mrs. Puth. Miss

38:03

Puth? Miss Puth? That's Mrs.

38:05

Puth to you. That's Mrs. Brooke Puth to

38:07

you. They got married shockingly

38:10

in Montecito at his family house.

38:13

His house, yeah. And what's cute

38:15

about them, but also makes it just kind of boring,

38:18

is that they've known each other for a long time. Their whole

38:20

lives, basically. We talked about her.

38:23

I guess they were friends for a long time. Then

38:25

one day it was like, oh, damn, we should date.

38:27

And then they dated. And then they got engaged. And

38:29

now they're married. And they're both from New Jersey. And

38:31

literally that's it. It's like, it's

38:33

so boring. Like, she's beautiful. She's

38:36

kind of model-y. Again, not really sure what

38:38

her job is. Didn't someone pull

38:40

up her LinkedIn? We found her LinkedIn. She's a digital marketer

38:42

and PR coordinator at Butter and Aginters. Or she was at

38:44

one point. She was.

38:46

Maybe she doesn't have to work anymore, just to guess. But

38:49

like, there is like a funny old

38:51

tweet of her dad being like, my friend's son Charlie

38:53

Puth on the red carpet at the Grammys. Very cool

38:55

stuff. And then they were like, oh, I'm a great

38:57

kid. This was in

39:00

2014. So it's like, it is kind of like, oh, we went on

39:02

vacation together so many years.

39:05

And these kids were always like fated to get together. And

39:08

they just like kind of never did. They're

39:10

very much the stuff of romance novels. But they got

39:12

married. It was in Vogue. What I

39:14

loved about the Vogue piece was it was all her talking. Like,

39:16

even though she's clearly the not kind of like,

39:19

she's great, but she's not Charlie

39:21

Puth. Yeah, of course. The reason why it's

39:23

newsworthy. You are. It's Charlie Puth.

39:25

It's just like her, her voice, her

39:27

interview, whatever. So I thought

39:29

that was kind of interesting. It's very

39:32

like, how do I know I'm going to be

39:34

like, it's the bride's wedding. She planned it. Yeah.

39:37

I went to her Instagram and I found involved.

39:39

Do you see that thing on the cat on

39:41

the screenshot that we have that says like her

39:43

bio is just another Instagram account at the closet

39:45

next door. I was like, oh, is this her

39:47

business? But it's just

39:49

like, what is it? Well, she rebranded her

39:51

Instagram to Puth Brooke. Yeah,

39:54

it's Puth Brooke. It's weird.

39:57

It's just like a basically outfit in

39:59

spout. it's sort of like a mood board

40:01

for like outfits you can put together, like, here's

40:04

like well curated outfits. And then she links out

40:06

to where all these things are. But it's like,

40:08

are you making money on this? I don't know.

40:10

Anyway, he's off the market. Love

40:13

him. He's hungies no more. He's

40:15

been satiated. I saw a viral

40:17

tweet of someone retweeting Charlie Puth, like a

40:20

wedding announcement from Pop Quave or something. And

40:23

they added, they quote tweeted

40:25

with the iconic screenshot

40:27

of Britney Spears finding out that

40:29

Ryan Seacrest isn't gay. And I

40:31

was like, no. I

40:34

was like, where have you been? No, Charlie Puth is not gay.

40:36

No. And I'm the first person

40:38

to call someone gay. You really are. Yeah,

40:41

he does not give that energy. No, not

40:43

at all. He's a soft

40:45

boy for sure. But he

40:48

gives, oh, my wife. He really does.

40:50

Like he does. No,

40:52

totally. My girl. No,

40:54

he is being so nice to you at a party, but then

40:56

being like, my girlfriend, I've dated for 25 years. And

40:58

you're like, oh, what? You

41:02

know? And you're like, oh, OK, then. Yeah, you

41:04

meet him at a party. And you're like, is this going

41:06

somewhere? And it absolutely is not. And then you're like, well,

41:08

of course, am I a fucking idiot? Of course, I wasn't

41:10

going anywhere. It's Charlie fucking Puth. Right.

41:13

No, it's of course. And you're like, where's Brooke Sansom

41:15

tonight? And he's like, you mean Mrs. Puth. And

41:17

I'm like, OK. Oh, Brooke, who's my wife? Where's

41:19

Mrs. Puth? Brooke Puth, my

41:21

wife. Can we? Hi,

41:24

BLP. Long time, long time.

41:27

I am just calling to see if you guys can talk

41:29

about the dare. Who

41:31

is he? I feel like I have

41:33

seen him online, but I keep

41:36

seeing his suit and tie everywhere. And would

41:38

just love if you guys could talk more

41:40

about him. I think he's reached two of

41:42

them now. So just

41:45

don't want to Google. I'd rather hear

41:47

you guys talk about him. But anyway,

41:50

Tim Tebow lesbian, crunch, crunch. Bye.

41:52

I want to really, very much

41:54

lived through, Bobby did too, the

41:56

kind of indie sleaze era as

41:59

almost. I was like a 18 to 24 year old person, which

42:04

is kind of like the ideal age. And I went

42:06

to NYU, that wasn't really my, I wasn't that cool,

42:08

but I'm saying like, all

42:10

the bands and all the vibe and

42:12

like the skinny, the skinniness and the

42:14

small, the little tie and like all

42:16

that, it is wild to see like

42:18

this pastiche back in action

42:21

from someone that is so

42:23

like, that's cool

42:25

again, basically. That's cool. And without

42:27

irony, it doesn't have as much irony

42:29

as you would think. I think that's kind of like what

42:32

makes it. That's what makes it tolerable. And

42:34

he's getting the right like name checks

42:36

and like shout outs from people who are

42:38

cool, like Charlie, who are seeing it as

42:41

like, not embarrassing and seeing it

42:43

as like a full circle and being like, it's just

42:45

people having fun and like people just want music. They

42:47

can have fun too and dance too and like rave

42:49

too. And this is like what this is. Cause this

42:51

guy essentially like was in

42:53

a kind of, Bad band.

42:57

He went to Lewis and Clark and started a

42:59

band called Turtleneck. And if you listen to their

43:01

music, you're like, oh, this is so funny because

43:04

this is what the music that he like kind of really wants

43:06

to make, but like no one wants to hear this. And there's so

43:08

many bands like this. And then as a

43:10

joke, he like wrote a silly song and

43:12

then was like, oh, I have a persona.

43:14

Oh, now my persona is the dare where

43:16

I like wear sunglasses and a suit.

43:18

And a black suit with a skinny black tie.

43:20

And every song sounds kind of like the

43:23

same, but if you see it live, it's

43:25

hype. Yeah. Not

43:27

that I have, I've seen him live, but I will

43:30

say a friend of ours whose music tastes I trust

43:32

so much and works in the industry about it a

43:34

year or two ago, it was the night that I

43:36

saw Titanic. I asked her like, who are the artists

43:38

that you're excited about? And she was like, oh, the

43:40

dare. And I was like, okay. Like you're, you

43:43

don't even like, oh, everybody. She was like, basically everybody wants

43:45

to sign the dare. Right. There

43:47

was a bidding where he writes about this in his, or

43:49

he spoke about this in his GQ profile. He's like, the

43:51

person says, I asked him what it was like to be

43:53

pursued by record execs. Quote, it was really crazy. Smith says

43:55

again, his name is Harrison Smith. I went to a lot

43:58

of lunches. I think I went to every single key. McNally

44:00

restaurant twice. Republic Records ended up signing

44:02

him and they released his first EP

44:04

and his first album which just came

44:06

out like last week. This guy has

44:09

been bubbling up for so long and

44:11

now the Charlie getting big and him

44:13

producing the guest remix. The guest remix.

44:16

That then had Billy, that then went number

44:18

one because of Billy, Let's Not Lie and

44:21

that is what's getting him now this new and then he

44:23

has a new album out and I think people are very

44:25

much like who the fuck is this? Fair. ["I

44:28

Like The Girls Are Too Drush"] I

44:51

was resistant to like the dare because I was

44:53

like this is so irritating to me like whatever

44:55

you're doing. Knowing that it's essentially drag and knowing

44:58

the background of like oh I was in this

45:00

band and then I did this as a gag

45:02

and now I'm kind of stuck doing it. I

45:04

was like I don't like this but

45:07

when you listen to the music it is so, like

45:09

Lindsay said, I think we are just in

45:12

the perfect sweet spot of having

45:15

like come of age when the rapture was big. So

45:18

like I listen to this and I'm like at

45:20

a very cool party when I'm 19 years old.

45:23

Like in a co-op building in West Campus. I

45:25

can't hate it because it makes me feel young

45:27

or something. It does. It makes

45:29

me think of like the bands that I loved

45:31

in college and like loved them so like unironically

45:33

and I'm just kind of like cool. I'm glad

45:35

that like early is good to have that experience

45:37

too or something. You know like that's

45:39

fine. Like I don't need to go to the party where

45:41

this is playing but I'm like you're probably having fun. It's

45:44

like we still live in New York. I can't be mad

45:46

at this. Like I still live here. It's like I didn't

45:48

even move. Like I can't be mad. Like

45:50

it'd be one thing if I was like yeah and fuck NYU,

45:53

fuck New York, I got out of there, whatever. It's

45:55

like no I'm still like here. And

45:57

people my favorite thing in here that I didn't know until.

45:59

you or Timmy put it in here was that people

46:02

make fun of him because he sounds so much

46:04

like James Murphy of LCD Sound System. And just

46:06

LCD Sound System generally, that people call him STD

46:09

Sound System, which is a good one. It's a

46:11

good one. That's so funny that he was like

46:13

a substitute teacher in Williamsburg, like just being a

46:15

normal kind of guy. And then he like put

46:17

on a suit. He was being interviewed

46:19

by Zane Lowe. I watched his ass

46:22

interview the day, which is so annoying. But

46:24

then he was just like, yeah, for a

46:26

while he junkled both things. He was a substitute

46:28

teacher and then he would DJ. For you, what

46:31

drew you to teaching? I know we had talk

46:33

about music, but I'd love the transition you've made

46:35

from education to art. And I see a commonality

46:37

in both, obviously. Yeah, I don't know. I guess

46:39

there's just like a few teachers or professors that

46:41

I've had that were both

46:44

artists and educators and were

46:46

also just really cool. And

46:49

I always kind of looked up to them for

46:53

guidance and just as like a model

46:55

of somebody who can help

46:57

other people either through making art or

46:59

just imparting those skills on other people.

47:01

And yeah, so there's a giving to

47:04

it. Yeah, and I received that at

47:06

a young age with music and with

47:09

English literature and whatnot. How did

47:11

you receive it? My

47:13

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47:15

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47:17

cute. I looked at some antique shop in the neighborhood and I

47:19

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47:22

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who did Diana Agron go to Greece

51:02

with since he's a lesbian?

51:04

I love this call because you can hear someone laughing behind them.

51:08

You know who she went to Greece with if

51:10

you're asking us this question. Diana

51:13

Agron, by the way. We found it. It's

51:16

Agron. Diana Agron, who is kind of a star of one of

51:19

my live pieces. Let's answer the question before

51:21

we get into the Agron. Thank

51:23

God Diana Agron Upstates continues their

51:25

journey on Instagram because they are

51:27

Brazilian so they were kind of

51:29

kicked off Twitter, but they

51:31

are going strong on Instagram. So I need to

51:34

make that kind of public announcement because I think

51:36

they're kind of like, everyone, I'm still here. I'm

51:38

still doing the work. I would

51:40

argue they're going stronger on Instagram. I'm

51:43

seeing their content more and more on

51:45

our Instagram. Are you? Well,

51:47

I follow them. Diana Agron went viral. That's what this

51:49

is kind of about. Let's forget

51:51

about the Greece thing for a second. She went

51:54

viral because she did this event for completed

51:56

works for London Fashion Week. Again, don't know

51:58

what any of those words mean. I mean like. It's

52:01

a jewelry brand. Great.

52:03

And so she did this interview with them. It's like sustainable jewelry.

52:05

It says their website. Yeah. Hi, I'm Diana

52:08

Agron. And you're here with Grazia in

52:10

Gordon Square in London on a beautiful,

52:13

sunny, and warm day we're having.

52:15

So warm. Here with completed works. Sort

52:18

of a powerful one. But if you had

52:20

a warning sign, what would it say? Caution,

52:24

pleasure seeker. And

52:28

people were like, first of all, I didn't know how many.

52:30

I didn't know this many people knew what Diana Agron was

52:32

supposed to sound like, basically, which is funny. It's

52:34

like you tweeting this and being like, what is this

52:36

accent? Is the kind of assumption that you knew what

52:39

she's supposed to sound like, which like, I don't know

52:41

what she's supposed to sound like. I haven't heard this

52:43

woman speaking forever. She's barely anything. That's the whole journey

52:45

of her. She's always like not doing stuff. And that's

52:48

Diana Agron's number one problem with Diana

52:50

Agron. She's not in anything. Diana Agron,

52:52

you're saying Diana Agron updates main problem

52:54

with Diana Agron is that she's always

52:57

unemployed. In Gordon Square in London on

52:59

a beautiful sunny and

53:01

warm day we're having here

53:03

with completed works. Yeah, it's giving I absolutely

53:06

loathe hydrangeas. Yeah. Do you hear when I

53:08

was in Toronto, I found

53:10

their cadence very catchy. And I

53:13

found myself doing it. Oh, the Canadian

53:15

cadence? Yeah. Just the kind of way

53:17

that a lot of Canadians speak, I found

53:19

very alluring. And I kind of like would

53:21

hear myself speaking that way back to them

53:23

and being like, whoa. She's

53:26

from Savannah, Georgia, by the way.

53:28

She's from a place with a

53:30

very famous and obvious accent.

53:33

But she lost that accent long ago, I'm sure.

53:35

I'm sure she's kind of a neutral accent. I'm

53:37

just saying she's from a place that has an

53:40

accent, that has a notable American accent, like deep

53:42

south Savannah, Georgia. Sure, sure, sure. So who

53:44

was Diana Agron in Greece with? I don't

53:46

really know. But if you go through Diana

53:48

Agron updates, it's like

53:50

everyone. Chloe Wise, Fotis Evans,

53:53

Hedy Stanton. Camille Charyar. You

53:56

know who was in Greece with Diana Agron, which I

53:58

love, Maggie Rogers. I'm like, these two are friends. Okay,

54:00

because you know, Dinah Agrón's thing is that she also sings.

54:02

So she's like, I'm a singer. Well, she used to sing at the

54:04

Cafe Carla. I remember that we've talked about this before. You know,

54:06

she dated Mumford and Sons guy or was married to her.

54:08

Are they divorced now? Did she divorce Mumford and Sons? They're

54:10

divorced. Yeah. She did because he went crazy. Yeah. They

54:13

divorced like right at the beginning of the pandemic. Great caption

54:15

here. Did you see this last caption? Always in

54:17

Greece and never beating the allegations that she kept Mumford

54:19

and Sons on the divorce. Dinah Agrón, partying

54:22

with friends recently. But who is she with? The

54:24

easiest answer to your question is that she's

54:26

with a bunch of influencers. Right. Like she's

54:28

with a bunch of people whose job it's

54:30

also whose job it is also to

54:33

go around the world and party with friends.

54:36

You know, like Dinah Agrón is making money

54:38

during these travels. Like don't forget that part.

54:40

But what I like about following up with her,

54:42

like kind of keeping in touch with her through

54:44

Dinah Agrón updates is you're also getting updates or

54:47

I'm also getting updates from them about Twitter and

54:49

Brazil. So they posted Twitter changed its server in

54:51

Brazil so they can escape

54:53

from the ban. So everyone has access right now.

54:55

But TBH is not worth getting back because

54:57

the timeline ain't really working. You can't see any

55:00

images or videos. Also, because Leon Musk is a

55:02

piece of shit. So hope this backfires and he

55:04

gets sued again. So it's like, if you're wondering

55:06

what's the update on that, it's not

55:09

going well. Like people are finding ways around

55:11

it. They're still figuring out how

55:13

do you ban Twitter in an entire country, whatever.

55:15

I mean, I guess China has figured out how

55:18

to ban internet stuff before. It's not the first time,

55:20

but like it's messy. So you're going

55:22

to see some stuff. You're going to not see

55:24

some stuff. But Dinah Agrón updates is not back

55:26

on Twitter. They're saying like, this is bullshit. And

55:29

I'm not leaving. And then they posted this on

55:32

top of that. They posted texts. They wrote also because

55:34

we have nothing else to post. Dinah left London is

55:36

back to wherever she's hiding. We're not getting anything before

55:38

next week. So they're like, don't worry.

55:40

You're not missing anything from us. Our

55:43

girly is still giving unemployed. I

55:46

love them. I love them so much.

55:48

Let's play a couple more calls. Hi,

55:51

Lindsey Bobby, to me. Medium

55:53

time, medium time. I'm just calling because

55:55

my sister and I were chatting about

55:58

peace. and the

56:00

Tooth Fairy, and she brought

56:03

up the idea of your two

56:05

front teeth being the most famous

56:08

teeth because there's a song about

56:10

them, and I was wondering if

56:12

you could rank from who

56:14

to them the different teeth.

56:18

I guess your front teeth would be the

56:20

most famous, but I feel like wisdom teeth

56:22

are also pretty famous,

56:26

and so would be your molars, maybe your

56:29

canines. I don't know, I would love

56:31

to hear your input. Thanks so much. Bye.

56:34

We're ranking teeth. We're ranking teeth.

56:36

Okay, there are four, okay, I had to look up how many

56:38

types of teeth there were. There are

56:40

32 teeth, and the teeth

56:42

may be divided into four categories.

56:45

We've got incisors, canines, premolars, molars,

56:47

and a wisdom. Yeah, I just added

56:49

wisdom because I think wisdom are actually

56:51

technically molars. Wisdom are molars? Okay,

56:54

so can we see molars slash wisdom? They

56:56

are technically molars, but let's call them

56:58

wisdom because I think they are so

57:01

iconic. I do think that they're

57:03

the most themmy tooth because wisdom teeth are kind of

57:05

just like the teeth that we're talking about that

57:08

are causing us the most drama. I agree.

57:11

They're the most themmy. If you have to deal with your teeth, you do

57:13

have to deal with lots of your teeth at all points, but the main

57:15

teeth you'd ever have to deal with if you had no teeth issues in

57:18

your whole life, you'd still have to deal with your wisdoms, which

57:20

are your molars. I think molars is the themiest.

57:22

I think the whoiest is premolars because I never

57:24

think about those. What are those though? I don't

57:26

even know. I get it. I get

57:28

it grammatically, but I don't really... Between the

57:30

canines and the molars. I'm going to have to ask

57:32

Dr. Dan next time I see him. Oh, Dr. Dan. Molars

57:35

are. After wisdom, are we going molars? No,

57:37

no, they're the same. They're the same. Wisdom

57:40

slash molars. Well, wisdom slash molars, but I think if

57:42

we're going to separate them, I think it's actually a

57:44

wisdom. We're not though because they're the same

57:46

category. But a molar isn't a wisdom, even though

57:48

a wisdom is a molar. It's like a square and a rectangle. Wisdoms

57:51

are molars, but molars aren't wisdoms, which is why I think we just

57:53

have to make maybe one... One

57:56

bullet point A is molars. Okay,

57:58

that's fine, but to me they're wisdom slash molars. because

58:00

we're not, you know, if wisdom teeth are molars, then

58:02

they're the same category to me. Well, that's the

58:04

problem. Wisdom teeth are molars, but molars aren't

58:06

necessarily wisdom teeth. That's fine with me. Molars

58:09

are up there with thems too. After

58:11

that, do we do incisors or canines? I

58:13

think canines are way themier than

58:15

incisors. Really? Yeah. I

58:18

always think about incisors because they're the right, they're the

58:20

front, they're the sharp ones. Yeah, but I

58:22

think about canines because people are always getting their

58:25

canines fucked up or sharpened or my canines, they're

58:27

like, there's always something. That's tough. Because the two

58:29

front teeth are incisors. Like when people say the

58:31

two front teeth. No, I do know

58:33

that, but I'm just saying, I feel like canines are more

58:36

in the conversation. If

58:38

the incisors were called front two front teeth,

58:41

do you think they'd be themier? Like if it was

58:43

two front teeth versus canines or incisors versus canines. I

58:45

mean, I guess if you're seeing any teeth, you're seeing

58:48

your two front teeth and then that way they're really

58:50

front and center in terms of like somebody's teeth health.

58:52

If you're like, oh, you have nice teeth, you're gonna

58:54

see the front teeth first. Let's just

58:56

do canines. Canines,

58:58

incisors, premolars.

59:01

Canines barely edge them out. They

59:03

are the sharp ones. They're the sharp ones. They

59:05

help you really like get a bite. Incisors

59:07

are kind of deceptive because you think they're

59:10

helping you, but they're kind of there for

59:12

you to knock out. They're dangerous. My

59:15

incisors what cracked, you know? Yeah,

59:17

I also have a chip on my incisor. I have a chipped incisor that I

59:20

had to put a fake tooth on and now I can't even bite

59:22

into an apple. I haven't been able to for years because they're like,

59:24

it might pop off. Well, they're always like, And

59:26

you can. I have an apple that's gonna pop off. And I

59:28

was like, well, damn it. I also have a chip and

59:30

it's not big enough to get replaced. I fell after drinking

59:32

too many margaritas on a curb. Oh my God. I

59:36

think I was on the way somewhere where you were. I

59:38

didn't, wait, when? Was this a long time ago? Yeah.

59:41

And it's got a little chip. And then like, I kind of

59:43

realized that I was in denial and then I went to the

59:45

desk and they were like, you know, you chipped your tooth. And

59:47

I was like, what? When did

59:49

that happen? I knew exactly when it happened. Mine

59:51

was, I- But it's kind of dulled down.

59:53

I fell in front of my apartment after like

59:56

meeting up with our dentist friend. And then

59:58

I got home and I was like, like, damn,

1:00:00

can you fit me in tomorrow? Didn't you go?

1:00:02

Right, you went right to him, and he had

1:00:04

to accept. He was like, LOL, just come in

1:00:06

tomorrow. He fit me in. That's why it's good

1:00:08

to have a dentist, right? I know. OK, so

1:00:10

wisdom slash molars, canines, incisors, premolars. Great.

1:00:13

Sure. You know what we should do? Why

1:00:15

don't you text this to Dan? Oh, I'll text him. I'll ask

1:00:17

him next time I see him. Actually, I think I'm going to

1:00:19

the dentist in like a week or so. Oh, good. So maybe

1:00:21

I'll bring this up. Don't be scared. I've

1:00:24

done this before. Show

1:00:27

me your teeth. Show

1:00:31

me your teeth. Show

1:00:37

me your teeth. Shout out to

1:00:39

More Famous Birthdays, our game that a wonderful

1:00:41

hooligan turned into an actual game that you

1:00:44

can play online. What's the URL for that?

1:00:46

We'll link it in the show notes. OK,

1:00:48

great. And what we're going to do is play

1:00:50

the game next week. Next week, for sure. So

1:00:53

everyone who hates that game, tune

1:00:56

in for that. With that, we can end.

1:00:58

Thank you for listening to another episode of Who's There. Thank

1:01:00

you for suffering through my cold voice. It's

1:01:02

not cold, but it's just cold. Future Lindsay here

1:01:04

once again. And I'm just going to have to

1:01:06

repeat myself. It's

1:01:08

not just a cold. Feel

1:01:11

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1:01:31

my God, we'll see you Tuesday. Keep listening

1:01:33

for Cold, you're doing amazing, sweeties. Bye. Bye.

1:01:37

You will drive us. Yo, yo,

1:01:39

yo, they wanna know. Hey. Mia.

1:01:43

Hey. Mia. Come

1:01:46

on. Hey. I want to be

1:01:48

famous. Hi,

1:01:50

Bobby, Lindsay, Timmy. I

1:01:53

was walking through SoHo

1:01:55

with three of my Gen Z employees

1:01:58

yesterday. we saw Louisa

1:02:01

Gummer and obviously none of

1:02:03

them knew who she was.

1:02:06

So she's definitely still a who, but

1:02:09

I had to explain to them who she was. And

1:02:12

then this one of my direct reports was

1:02:14

like, oh, I

1:02:16

think I met Meryl Streep's nephew at my

1:02:18

gym. He was telling me the story. And

1:02:21

then I had this story

1:02:24

unlocked in my brain, which is that I went

1:02:26

to summer camp with Meryl

1:02:30

Streep's niece, this guy's sister.

1:02:33

And she stole all my friends because she

1:02:36

was boy crazy and I wasn't. And

1:02:40

I cried calling my parents all the

1:02:42

time, and they let me leave early.

1:02:45

So started on a high, this

1:02:48

story ended on a low. Crunch

1:02:50

crunch. So

1:02:52

I just learned that the

1:02:55

longest sentence written by

1:02:57

a monkey was

1:03:00

written by a monkey named Nim

1:03:02

Shimsky. The

1:03:07

sentence was, give orange me,

1:03:09

give eat orange, me eat orange,

1:03:11

give me eat orange, give

1:03:14

me you. Do we

1:03:16

think that Noam Chomsky knows

1:03:18

who Nim Shimsky is? Hey,

1:03:22

BLT, I'm listening to a week's

1:03:24

episode, and I get a text

1:03:26

from my sister-in-law. And

1:03:29

she said that she's taking

1:03:31

the kids to see Megan Trainor tonight. The

1:03:34

kids are four and six. So

1:03:38

whatever that means, I will

1:03:40

report back on how much

1:03:42

they enjoyed it. OK,

1:03:44

good for both, or crunch crunch showing

1:03:47

whole. Bye. Hi,

1:03:49

Lindsay Bobby. I am just calling

1:03:52

as your chicken salad chick correspondent

1:03:54

from the greater Nashville area. I

1:03:58

realize I've never been to a chicken salad. after

1:04:00

listening to your episodes. So I brought it

1:04:02

up to my husband, who actually had an

1:04:04

infection to one. So I think

1:04:07

that's where we go while we were

1:04:09

running errands on Saturday. We

1:04:11

did, and I don't think based on your

1:04:15

description of your meal

1:04:17

that you ate it in situ in the

1:04:19

chicken salad trick. So I do wanna let

1:04:22

you know what you were missing in

1:04:24

the bathroom. So I went to the bathroom before I

1:04:26

left, it's four signs, and this is

1:04:28

the one I want to read. If

1:04:31

your husband or boyfriend brought

1:04:33

you here today and you have a question about

1:04:35

how much he loves you, dot, dot, dot, let

1:04:38

us put it into perspective for you. There

1:04:40

are plenty of barbecue joints in the area.

1:04:43

He is sitting here amongst a sea of

1:04:45

flowers, wooden and salad. Now

1:04:47

get that broccoli out of your teeth, feel gorgeous

1:04:49

and have a great day with that rock star.

1:04:52

So I went back outside to my husband and I said, I

1:04:55

know you had no intention of going through that

1:04:57

thing before we left, but I need you to

1:04:59

do some recording on what the signs and the

1:05:02

men's rations says. And there are four signs and

1:05:04

the men's restrooms of similar tenor, but I will

1:05:06

just read this one. Gentlemen,

1:05:08

dot, dot, dot, the

1:05:11

porcelain pegs, rusty pails and washboard decor,

1:05:13

your barbecue joints, and just a bit

1:05:15

of Narfum and entity. So

1:05:17

we don't think it is too much to ask of

1:05:19

you to say the stupid names and sit in a

1:05:22

few flowers for an hour. Thank you

1:05:24

for understanding. It means a lot to us. Anyway,

1:05:27

I have the one with

1:05:29

the onions, which is problematically called the

1:05:32

glitzy kiss, but it was indeed delicious.

1:05:34

And we will be going back. Thanks

1:05:36

crunchy crunchy. I

1:05:39

also wanted to call and tell you

1:05:41

that Ann Adelvie did something similar during

1:05:44

the pandemic where if you

1:05:46

subscribe to her Patreon, and

1:05:48

she was like, what do you get if

1:05:50

you subscribe to my Patreon? You got the

1:05:52

opportunity to be able to buy like an

1:05:55

NFT or something like that. Like it was

1:05:57

like a similar type of scam.

1:06:00

It was so silly and crazy. And

1:06:04

then also, per the Helena Bonham Carter thing,

1:06:07

is there was this famous

1:06:09

Goya portrait of this woman naked.

1:06:14

And they were like, we think this might be

1:06:16

like this famous princess. And it would be so

1:06:18

crazy if Goya painted

1:06:20

this princess naked. So

1:06:23

they dug this princess up and measured

1:06:25

her bones to see if they're the

1:06:27

correct ratio. But it turns out what

1:06:29

happened was he painted the princess, but

1:06:31

he just imagined her naked. Anyway,

1:06:35

so crazy. Kind

1:06:37

of reminds me of the Helena Bonham Carter

1:06:39

thing, of like they're trying to manufacture, or

1:06:43

not manufacture, a scandal, but the painting could

1:06:45

apply a scandal. And so then

1:06:47

it kind of generates its own height,

1:06:49

like this Goya portrait. OK, crunch, crunch.

1:06:54

Hi, Lindsay and Bobby. I'm a little behind. And

1:06:56

I just heard you guys talking about laundry and

1:06:58

how much Lindsay hates it, and Bobby loves it.

1:07:01

And I have to say, I also love

1:07:03

doing laundry, because that is almost exclusively the

1:07:05

time when I listen to your

1:07:07

podcast. So I get a little

1:07:09

fun treat of hearing from weekly

1:07:11

when I get to do laundry. So that's

1:07:14

all. I'll be a T. onion. Crunch, crunch.